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How do you determine what enemy types you will be fighting?
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Enos Galan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-10-26 01:55:58 UTC
Looking up fit examples for ships and such, they always tell you to use the correct ammo/tank modules for the types of enemies you'll be facing. The issue I have is that I don't know how to determine which enemy types I'll be facing.

Is it mere trial and error or is there a way to determine what I'll be facing in the various activities (i.e. missions)?

I asked in help chat and was recommended to use EVEMaps and look up the system. I did, but it only seems to list local pirates. I suited up some ammo and modules to fight against Angels and so far all I'm fighting are EoM in missions.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#2 - 2015-10-26 02:39:26 UTC
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/NPC_Damage_Types
Basically, NPCs have a resist hole to whatever damage type they deal.

Here's the crib sheet from that e-uni post:
FACTION • THEY DEAL · YOU DEAL → OTHER


Angel Cartel • EX/KIN · EX → Target Painters

Blood Raiders • EM/THER · EM/THER → NOS/Neut, Tracking Disr

Guristas • KIN/THER · KIN → ECM

Mordu's Legion • KIN/EM · KIN

Sansha's • EM/THER · EM/THER → Tracking Disruptor


Serpentis • KIN/THER · THER/KIN → Sensor Dampener

Equilibrium • KIN/THER · KIN

Khanid • EM/THER · THER/EM

Mercenaries • KIN/THER · KIN/THER

Sleepers • all · all → all


Amarr • EM/THER · EM/THER → NOS/Neut, Tracking Disr

Caldari • KIN/THER · KIN/THER → ECM

Gallente • KIN/THER · KIN → Sensor Dampener

Minmatar • EX/KIN · EX → Target Painter


Rogue Drones • 1 & 2 Level · 3 & 4 Level

Both Deal • EM/THER · EX/KIN


EM: Acolyte/Infiltrator/Praetor — Mjolnir — EMP, proton

THER: Hobgoblin/Hammehead/Ogre — Inferno — plasma

KIN: Hornet/Vespa/Wasp — Scourge — titanium, lead

EXP: Warrior/Valkyrie/Berserker — Nova — fusion

Uranium: all but EM

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Enos Galan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-10-26 03:02:59 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
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I appreciate the information, but I'm asking how do I determine which enemies I will be facing ahead of time. Do I need to scout missions out or is there some easier way to know what I'll be facing before I get into combat in terms of PvE?
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2015-10-26 03:04:19 UTC
The local rat race ( meaning racial make up of the NPC rats not like the euphemism ) is determined by region. Basically warp to a belt and see which rats and all belt rats in that region I believe will be the same. So your anoms in that system will also be of that racial make up with very few exceptions.

As far as missions each agent has a pool of missions that you will get and it's specific to his corp and location. So basically it will vary from agent to agent. However they often tend to favor missions of a certain racial type and that often is the race or races that work best for the local faction. What I mean is that in Caldari space you'll usually get more Guristas and Serpentis missions and almost never get Mordus Legion missions due to there good standing with Caldari.

Likewise in Minmatar space you'll get a lot of Angel missions and in Amarr space you'll get a lot of Sanshas and Blood Raider missions. Note that you will get other pirate races in all of those regions this is just a general tendency.

When you get offered the mission it usually has the race of however you will be fighting listed in the mission briefing and if you can't read it then you can always click on it to open up the info UI on that racial pirate's type.

I hope this helps

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2015-10-26 03:07:03 UTC
http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=MissionReports

Mission reports is a great help for mission running but as you can see many mission require you to know which racial version of the mission that you have. Which goes back to checking for their racial icon in the mission briefing or mission info if you have already accepted it.

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Enos Galan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-10-26 03:12:49 UTC
ergherhdfgh wrote:
http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=MissionReports

Mission reports is a great help for mission running but as you can see many mission require you to know which racial version of the mission that you have. Which goes back to checking for their racial icon in the mission briefing or mission info if you have already accepted it.


That helps. Thanks!
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#7 - 2015-10-26 03:48:32 UTC
Just to add a bit to what, er, keysmash said above, the group you'll be fighting against is just to the left of the Location information: http://puu.sh/kXRB5/fb962a1715.jpg

In that screenshot, the enemy would be the Caldari. You can click on the racial icon to bring up some general info on them (right-click gives a normal context menu, while left-click takes you straight to the Show Info option).

Occasionally you'll find that you don't have a race there. In those cases, you're either not going to be fighting anyone, or you'll be fighting Mercenaries (usually). Refer to the post from Mephiztopheles for damage types for Mercenaries.

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#8 - 2015-10-26 04:18:14 UTC
the mission text and icon will usually tell you which faction you might face. there are only a few exceptions.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#9 - 2015-10-26 05:18:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Look for a faction icon for those missions that have a standing penalty (it is clickable).

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1201/2012.01.09.13.24.14.jpg

If there is no icon, then there is no standing penalty, unless it is a storyline mission.

If you are piloting a ship with a damage bonus, typically you will use that bonus in most cases.

Example: A kinetic bonus works well with everything EXCEPT those that are EM weak (Rogue Drones, Blood Raiders, Sansha).

Thermal is considered a generic damage that works pretty well on everything.
Explosive is great vs. armor, but horrible vs. shields.
EM is great vs. shields but horrible vs. armor.
All ships have good kinetic resists, so kinetic is mediocre.

You also have to consider range and tracking when picking turret ammo.

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/NPC_Damage_Types