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"Heir" Khanid selects Sani Sabik champion

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Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#41 - 2015-10-18 16:12:22 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:


No righteous Amarr will recognize Khanid as heir, nor as emperor. He is a traitor and heretic that has clearly used his time since Her Imperial Majesty's forgiveness to plant seeds of corruption in the Empire to try and validate his wickedness.

Khanid as heir, and Tetrimon suppression edict lifted? No one but the emperor of Amarr may order these things! There are demons infesting the highest levels of the Empire. It is the Red Chamberlain, all over again.



Empress Jamyl welcomed King Khanid and his people back into the Empire.

The Privy Council and Theological Council have declared him an Heir.

Both Councils are overseeing the selection process.

A wise pilot knows that our public facade is not always what we are in private. Did you consider that this pilot might, for example, have been working for one of many Imperial or Kingdom intelligence agencies?

It matters not.

I find you lacking in Faith. I do not care for what your personal opinions are regarding my King. But he is Amarr. He is an Heir and God-willing, he may end up our Emperor.

You on the other hand are a Matari commoner, one step away from a Cleansing Pit. Your lack of honor and obedience to the Empire and our Faith has been noted. This is not the first time you have made public declarations against those who have been proven loyal to the Empire. This is not the first time you have questioned openly the decisions of your betters. Further, your disloyalty to the Councils, Privy and Theological, are not just a reflection of your own base willfullness, but also reflect on your House, your Corp and those you would call friends, family and allies. Must we call into question their loyalty based on your words? Is your treason a reflection of their lack of properly educating you, or do they share in your slanderous, vile, evil and corrupt musings?

This is the last time I will provide you with correction here. Repent. Do it now or pay the price for your betrayal to God and Empire.



"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#42 - 2015-10-18 17:19:20 UTC
Given that Lieutenant Kernher has already been corrected publicly by her superiors in this thread for being too quick to assume major corruption at work in the selection of Khanid as heir, I wonder if you are just trying to pick a fight with the Praetorians as a whole, Mr. Mokk.

You do not have the authority to order one of my pilots to repent. I suggest you back off. Now.

It is especially rich that you presume to order a Praetorian to repent while concocting rich spy thriller fantasies to justify the perversion of an open heretic participating in this ritual. Samira is right to be upset about that, as well as at the massive irregularity of this whole process so far. This is true even if she was rash to jump to assuming corruption as the explanation for Khanid's status as heir.

Admiral of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore 24th Imperial Crusade

Holder. Vassal of the Emperor Family

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2015-10-18 17:30:20 UTC
Given that they've brought Shathol'Syn back in its entirety, it'll be interesting to see if Garkeh Khanid actually follows through this time.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2015-10-18 17:59:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Sinjin Mokk
Gaven Lok'ri wrote:
Given that Lieutenant Kernher has already been corrected publicly by her superiors in this thread for being too quick to assume major corruption at work in the selection of Khanid as heir, I wonder if you are just trying to pick a fight with the Praetorians as a whole, Mr. Mokk.

You do not have the authority to order one of my pilots to repent. I suggest you back off. Now.

It is especially rich that you presume to order a Praetorian to repent while concocting rich spy thriller fantasies to justify the perversion of an open heretic participating in this ritual. Samira is right to be upset about that, as well as at the massive irregularity of this whole process so far. This is true even if she was rash to jump to assuming corruption as the explanation for Khanid's status as heir.



My dear Lord Admiral,

Given that this is not the first time that the Lieutenant has made disparaging public remarks against King Khanid, our people and our relationship to the Empire, I will humbly suggest that the problem resides within her. I and others have only responded to her words, not instigated. This is a matter of public record.

As a Khanid and former Praetorian, her words are a deadly insult to my King, my People, my God and my Honor. But as a Khanid and former Praetorian, I will obey your suggestion to allow this matter to be handled internally.

I would humbly suggest that any Amarr who has an issue with the selection process for the Trials, obey the rulings of both Councils and follow the chain of command to register any complaints. Open defiance in a public forum is most...unseemly...

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#45 - 2015-10-18 19:35:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Nauplius
Moments ago on 1919 Hours on 2015.10.18, over 1,000,000 Slaves were sacrificed to the Red God in order that he bless Team edeity and the future Red Emperor, King Khanid, in the upcoming succession trials.

These slaves, these filthy Minmatar subhumans, were purchased some months ago at bargain blowout prices at M-N7WD VIII - Moon 12 - Dominations Assembly Plant. Now the opportunity has presented itself for them to glorify God in their destruction. Faced with the formidable logistics of slave sacrifice at such a remote location, I decided not to give these slaves a death in space, but instead they were fed directly into the station's trash compactor, alive, a horrific act that shocked even the Angels working the station. Despite these unusual conditions, be assured that proper sacred consecrations were performed over the slaves in order that they be a worthy sacrifice onto the Red God.

With this ritual sacrifice, surely, God will lead the future Red Emperor, King Khanid, and his Champion edeity to victory. Amen. Amarr Victor.
Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#46 - 2015-10-18 19:39:31 UTC
They sell slaves at blowout prices in Delve too you know.
Alizebeth Amalath
Doomheim
#47 - 2015-10-18 19:40:24 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:

As a Khanid and former Praetorian, her words are a deadly insult to my King, my People, my God and my Honor. But as a Khanid and former Praetorian, I will obey your suggestion to allow this matter to be handled internally.

I would humbly suggest that any Amarr who has an issue with the selection process for the Trials, obey the rulings of both Councils and follow the chain of command to register any complaints. Open defiance in a public forum is most...unseemly...

Oh get over it. There's always a significant amount of posturing, factionalism, bickering, and insults that happen in the run up to the trials. Always. In the end, we all come together to support the new Emperor, except for this one time. . . .

The amount of whining by the Khanid does their king no credit.
Avio Yaken
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#48 - 2015-10-18 19:41:28 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Moments ago on 1919 Hours on 2015.10.18, over 1,000,000 Slaves were sacrificed to the Red God in order that he bless Team edeity and the future Red Emperor, King Khanid, in the upcoming succession trials.

These slaves, these filthy Minmatar subhumans, were purchased some months ago at bargain blowout prices at M-N7WD VIII - Moon 12 - Dominations Assembly Plant. Now the opportunity has presented itself for them to glorify God in their destruction. Faced with the formidable logistics of slave sacrifice at such a remote location, I decided not to give these slaves a death in space, but instead they were fed directly into the station's trash compactor, alive, a horrific act that shocked even the Angels working the station. Despite these unusual conditions, be assured that proper sacred consecrations were performed over the slaves in order that they be a worthy sacrifice onto the Red God.

With this ritual sacrifice, surely, God will lead the future Red Emperor, King Khanid, and his Champion edeity to victory. Amen. Amarr Victor.




Also

BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

(.___________________________________________.)/

Vollhov
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2015-10-18 20:54:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Vollhov
Del.
Here there was a text. Cry

End of Time. I'm not fanatic, I'm just a servant by Her Majesty the Empress Jamyl Sarum I. It's time to leave this world to me. YC111 to YC117.12.10 20:00

Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2015-10-18 22:23:33 UTC
Alizebeth Amalath wrote:
Sinjin Mokk wrote:

As a Khanid and former Praetorian, her words are a deadly insult to my King, my People, my God and my Honor. But as a Khanid and former Praetorian, I will obey your suggestion to allow this matter to be handled internally.

I would humbly suggest that any Amarr who has an issue with the selection process for the Trials, obey the rulings of both Councils and follow the chain of command to register any complaints. Open defiance in a public forum is most...unseemly...

Oh get over it. There's always a significant amount of posturing, factionalism, bickering, and insults that happen in the run up to the trials. Always. In the end, we all come together to support the new Emperor, except for this one time. . . .

The amount of whining by the Khanid does their king no credit.



I am satisfied that the Lord Admiral will attend to his pilot's lapse in judgement.

If she, like many others, were to call into question Jamyl Sarum's fitness to rule, I think you would be equally vocal.

We serve God and Emperor.

This is unconditional.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#51 - 2015-10-18 22:32:02 UTC
So long as Khanid continues to have Ediety as a potential Champion, I will be echoing questions of Khanid's fitness to rule. This is a cut and dry issue, a blood raider champion is unacceptable and any victory by said figure will be illegitimate by nature. I can only hope that Khanid will remove him. Barring that, I can only hope that he loses early in the championship.

What I will not support is the idea that this means there is corruption at the highest levels of the system. That charge is weighty and should be kept quiet unless it has clear and irrefutable evidence that demands action.

Ediety actively winning the championship would in and of itself qualify as clear and irrefutable evidence that the ceremony and those involved in its management were corrupted.


Admiral of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore 24th Imperial Crusade

Holder. Vassal of the Emperor Family

Alizebeth Amalath
Doomheim
#52 - 2015-10-18 22:42:15 UTC
Gaven Lok'ri wrote:
So long as Khanid continues to have Ediety as a potential Champion, I will be echoing questions of Khanid's fitness to rule. This is a cut and dry issue, a blood raider champion is unacceptable and any victory by said figure will be illegitimate by nature. I can only hope that Khanid will remove him. Barring that, I can only hope that he loses early in the championship.

What I will not support is the idea that this means there is corruption at the highest levels of the system. That charge is weighty and should be kept quiet unless it has clear and irrefutable evidence that demands action.


We, as Holy Mother of the Order of Jamyl, echo this as our official policy. There are a great many things happening and I will be patient to see what Her Majesty had ordered upon her death.
Yockerbow
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2015-10-18 23:03:34 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Given that they've brought Shathol'Syn back in its entirety, it'll be interesting to see if Garkeh Khanid actually follows through this time.


Or abolishes the practice if he wins.

That being said, I find it amazing that anyone is taking this as a surprise. Khanid has always been known for practicality; he'll use what works and to hell with "how it looks."

On a side note, it's also quite humorous how so many pilots here seem to think that disagreement equals disrespect.
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2015-10-18 23:40:56 UTC
Gaven Lok'ri wrote:
So long as Khanid continues to have Ediety as a potential Champion, I will be echoing questions of Khanid's fitness to rule. This is a cut and dry issue, a blood raider champion is unacceptable and any victory by said figure will be illegitimate by nature. I can only hope that Khanid will remove him. Barring that, I can only hope that he loses early in the championship.

What I will not support is the idea that this means there is corruption at the highest levels of the system. That charge is weighty and should be kept quiet unless it has clear and irrefutable evidence that demands action.

Ediety actively winning the championship would in and of itself qualify as clear and irrefutable evidence that the ceremony and those involved in its management were corrupted.





So in short, you have no faith in the Privy or Theology Council?

If the Lord you support does not win, you will see it as a sign of corruption and not the Will of God?

Perhaps my earlier words were correct.

I urge faith. Faith in God and Empire.

We are at war, besieged by enemies on all fronts. We do not need dissection and insurrection from within.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#55 - 2015-10-18 23:47:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
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Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#56 - 2015-10-19 00:29:51 UTC
Spreading accusations left and right is beyond unwise, especially if they are targeted at royal heirs. This shouldn't have been made into public showcasing in the first place.
Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#57 - 2015-10-19 02:34:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Gaven Lok'ri
Sinjin Mokk wrote:

So in short, you have no faith in the Privy or Theology Council?

If the Lord you support does not win, you will see it as a sign of corruption and not the Will of God?

Perhaps my earlier words were correct.

I urge faith. Faith in God and Empire.

We are at war, besieged by enemies on all fronts. We do not need dissection and insurrection from within.


I have faith that they will do the right thing and make sure that a blood raider is not responsible for the helping chose the next Emperor. My sincere expectation is that this is merely an oversight on their part that will be rectified.

I also have faith that if the ritual of the Holy Succession is done properly, the blood raider will not manage to win even if he is allowed to compete.

It is only a problem if my faith on both issues is misplaced.

But if that faith is misplaced and the ritual is allowed to be corrupted to such an extent that a blood raider is allowed to win it... well I lived through the Red Chancellor and I will not suffer a Red Emperor.

Admiral of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore 24th Imperial Crusade

Holder. Vassal of the Emperor Family

Kador Ouryon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2015-10-19 02:35:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Kador Ouryon
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
Gaven Lok'ri wrote:
So long as Khanid continues to have Ediety as a potential Champion, I will be echoing questions of Khanid's fitness to rule. This is a cut and dry issue, a blood raider champion is unacceptable and any victory by said figure will be illegitimate by nature. I can only hope that Khanid will remove him. Barring that, I can only hope that he loses early in the championship.

What I will not support is the idea that this means there is corruption at the highest levels of the system. That charge is weighty and should be kept quiet unless it has clear and irrefutable evidence that demands action.

Ediety actively winning the championship would in and of itself qualify as clear and irrefutable evidence that the ceremony and those involved in its management were corrupted.





So in short, you have no faith in the Privy or Theology Council?

If the Lord you support does not win, you will see it as a sign of corruption and not the Will of God?

Perhaps my earlier words were correct.

I urge faith. Faith in God and Empire.

We are at war, besieged by enemies on all fronts. We do not need dissection and insurrection from within.


One might assume that King Khanid would have had the good sense to understand that any victories attained through the efforts of a Sani Sabik representative would only create a slew of negative feelings surrounding his decisions as a participant in the Succession Trials.

Any division here is as a result of a simple choice the good King has made of which the repercussions are very implicit.

What fills the soul? Something that guides a lost child back to it's parents arms. Or waves that dye the shores of the heart gold. A blessed breath to nurture life in a land of wheat. Or the path the Sef descend drawn in ash. In the wake of fire.

Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#59 - 2015-10-19 09:25:28 UTC
Oversight, from the TC and the PC altogether?

Also, how could a succession ritual prevent a blood raider to win when the trials are from what I understand, mere capsuleer combat in an arena?

This thread is becoming increasingly confusing...
Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#60 - 2015-10-19 09:55:17 UTC
The events of the trial when it is a properly administered holy rite are the manifestation of the will of God. In a proper succession trial it is as much the hand of God that chooses the victor as it is personal skill.

A blood raider choosing the next emperor cannot be the will of God.

If such a thing happens, it is a dark sign that cancers in the system must be rooted out by the faithful. A blood corrupted trial would be the greatest threat to the Amarrian Empire since the days of Molok or the Usurper who cannot be named.

A blood corrupted succession trial would demand the execution of whatever usurper the corrupted trial appointed to the throne, as well as all of those involved in allowing the holy rituals to be corrupted.

I pray that it does not come to such a dire pass and that the sanctity of the holy succession trials is confirmed with the disqualification or defeat of the blood raider scum.

Admiral of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore 24th Imperial Crusade

Holder. Vassal of the Emperor Family