Intergalactic Summit

There is an interesting question: have Khanid agreed to the Ritual this time?

Please excuse me, I didn't understand it, would King Khanid participate in the trials himself, or someone else from his family will took his place to become the Emperor?

It is not implausible that, should His Majesty ascend by the Grace of God to the Throne, the Kingdom would be fully reintegrated into the Empire. In fact, this outcome is not wholly excluded even if His Majesty does not succeed to the Throne.

You bring up a perfect example of why the tradition is in place. The last time it was refused, the refusing heir ran off with a sizeable portion of the Imperial Fleet, succeeded an entire region from the Empire, and started a civil war.

Yes, thank you, sir.

Del.
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I will once again point out that while I can't exactly speak in favour of Shathol'Syn, it's also relevant to note that the one time in which the ritual was openly and verifiably disregarded, the result was a brutal civil war that split the Empire in twain. It should also be noted that this is precisely the outcome that Shathol'Syn had been engineered to avoid during the process of a succession.

I find the idea that the mere discussion that the late Empress brought 'great prosperity' to be a bit hard to defend... How can we even measure the gain in 'prosperity' when this empress reign lasted half a decade, and ended only very recently...?

Considering the scales of time the Empire strives on, and slowly moves, I find it a bit hard to be able to make such a statement today. If any, the only lasting effect that Empress Jamyl I left is probably her most controversial decree on the slave emancipation.... Which still bears a lot of economical and political consequences.

Perhaps we will have something to look at in the future decades with the new inclusion of the Order of Tetrimon too, which might have certain consequences on the imperial internal politics, as it already has started to show with the Succession Trials...

But all of this is mere speculation belonging to the future, and I can safely state that the current Empire still mostly lives on the last long reigning emperor legacy, Heideran VII. Be it through his signature of the Yulai conventions, his economical and foreign policies, his edicts regarding slaves, and of course the consolidation of Karsoth reign eventually.

This is the Empire that still exists, slowly being changed by newer events like the proxy war, and a hardening of mentalities.

Fair point, Captain Farel.

My argument was not predicated on such detailed specifics, but simply to illustrate that the ritual of Shathol'Syn can deprive the Empire of great talents, whereas its use to prevent rebellion is only really necessary if the unsuccessful Heirs are assumed to be traitorous by nature. Most Amarr would accept, I think, that the Empress Jamyl was a benison to their troubled polity.

As others have noted, it's a tradition that has served well, and it's not really an outsider's business. Traditions however, can become suffocating, and ought always to be examined. If Shathol'Syn had been carried through, the Empire would have missed out on the talents of both King Khanid and the Empress Jamyl. That's worth reflecting upon.

I really, really doubt that the Elder Fleet could have achieved much more in terms of destruction. They seemed pretty much focused in scooping as many insorum-ed slaves as they could before everything else.

The imperial navy proved very slow to rally and coordinate, but it would eventually have. The Elders knew their incursion was limited in time, and what Jamyl apparition did was mostly to spoil them of more time, and spared the imperial navy more casualties.

The historical consequence it bears is not a strategic or tactical decisive action, but a symbolic and political one.