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Frustrating Gate Gankers
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DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#1 - 2015-10-13 03:06:22 UTC
Simply place a Mobile Micro Jump Unit 20 km away from the gate in direct line with a station or other gate. When pilot warps to the gate at 20 they can immediately use the MMJU to jump in any direction away from the Gankers.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#2 - 2015-10-13 04:10:09 UTC
I have to wonder, did you actually successfully employ this method to avoid some gankers?
Or are we merely theorycrafting here?

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Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-10-13 04:49:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Yang Aurilen
I thought there were restrictions on how near you can place a structure on gates and stations?

PS you do know they'll just kill your MJU before it even gets online.

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DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#4 - 2015-10-13 05:38:21 UTC  |  Edited by: DrysonBennington
Yang Aurilen wrote:
I thought there were restrictions on how near you can place a structure on gates and stations?

PS you do know they'll just kill your MJU before it even gets online.


According to the Attributes the distance is 20 km from a gate and 10 km from another MMJU. Since the auto warp in point is 15 km the MMJU is within activation range as soon as the pilot lands.

That's why with a little corrdination between like minded anti-ganker groups a shield or armor repper would remote rep the MJU while a few combat ships with shield and armor repair drones also repping the MJU would destroy any ship that the bankers sent after the MJU. I seriously doubt that bankers like CODE would deploy their entire gank fleet to deal with a single MJU as they would miss the next freighter coming into the system. CODE might try to break their forces up and go after each MJU seperately as a combined fleet but due to lower DPS and higher volume of rep the likelyhood of destroying a MJU with four or five Cats or Thrashers would fail. Using Battle cruisers against the MJU would cause the same result as using Dessies.

Ideal MJU Guard.

1-2 armor or shield remote reppers with repair drones.
2-5 combat ships with repair drones.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-10-13 08:17:31 UTC
Oh highsec... I thought you were referring to lowsec.

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Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#6 - 2015-10-13 08:48:40 UTC
Have you considered the possibility anyone landing 15km off the gate is probably auto piloting or they would land at zero and so is unlikely to notice your MJU?

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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#7 - 2015-10-13 08:54:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Yang Aurilen wrote:
I thought there were restrictions on how near you can place a structure on gates and stations?

PS you do know they'll just kill your MJU before it even gets online.


sounds great can we get a video?

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May Arethusa
Junction Systems
#8 - 2015-10-13 12:45:39 UTC
Turn off auto-pilot, warp to 0. Gate camp thwarted. Only not really, because it takes a special kind of stupid to get caught warping to a gate.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#9 - 2015-10-13 12:47:38 UTC
why do anti gankers want to protect afk players? they aint even at the computer to realise someone made an effort for them

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Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#10 - 2015-10-13 13:30:36 UTC
Dudes, he's talking about hisec. The OP has a hard-on for CODE gankers.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#11 - 2015-10-13 13:33:28 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
Yang Aurilen wrote:
I thought there were restrictions on how near you can place a structure on gates and stations?

PS you do know they'll just kill your MJU before it even gets online.


According to the Attributes the distance is 20 km from a gate and 10 km from another MMJU. Since the auto warp in point is 15 km the MMJU is within activation range as soon as the pilot lands.

That's why with a little corrdination between like minded anti-ganker groups a shield or armor repper would remote rep the MJU while a few combat ships with shield and armor repair drones also repping the MJU would destroy any ship that the bankers sent after the MJU. I seriously doubt that bankers like CODE would deploy their entire gank fleet to deal with a single MJU as they would miss the next freighter coming into the system. CODE might try to break their forces up and go after each MJU seperately as a combined fleet but due to lower DPS and higher volume of rep the likelyhood of destroying a MJU with four or five Cats or Thrashers would fail. Using Battle cruisers against the MJU would cause the same result as using Dessies.

Ideal MJU Guard.

1-2 armor or shield remote reppers with repair drones.
2-5 combat ships with repair drones.


Your continual lack of knowledge of EVE game mechanics continues to shine.
Moglarr
Operation Meatshield
#12 - 2015-10-13 17:57:19 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:


Since the auto warp in point is 15 km the MMJU is within activation range as soon as the pilot lands.




No. When you give th command to jump a gate you land within activation range of the gate.

Also, why would you take the time to seed Mobile Jump Units, but not just take the time to warp to the gates in your route manually?

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Paranoid Loyd
#13 - 2015-10-13 19:57:15 UTC
Would one use the scissor technique before or after MJU activation?

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Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#14 - 2015-10-13 23:48:14 UTC
Why don't you and some of your like minded anti-ganking friends go and set this theorycraft up and give it a go?

Report back here with your findings.

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Yun Kuai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-10-15 08:11:10 UTC
Legitmate question as I haven't been in highsec in a few years.

Can you even anchor the MJU in highsec?

And as others said, this is great for people who might get caught.....but the big "but" here is the people who are going to get caught are already most likely AFK since they're autopiloting, thus making the effort wasted.

Now, if it's possible to set these up on safe areas on station; i.e. 100km below the station and way out of range of most gankers, then it would serve as a good point to warp to first and them MJU into docking range. But again, it's just better to manually set up a safe dock BM deep inside the station docking radius and warp to that instead.

I like where your head is at with trying to use niche mechanics to help, but I don't think this is necessary due to better mechanics already at hand.

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Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2015-10-15 20:57:13 UTC
Yun Kuai wrote:
Legitmate question as I haven't been in highsec in a few years.

Can you even anchor the MJU in highsec?

And as others said, this is great for people who might get caught.....but the big "but" here is the people who are going to get caught are already most likely AFK since they're autopiloting, thus making the effort wasted.

Now, if it's possible to set these up on safe areas on station; i.e. 100km below the station and way out of range of most gankers, then it would serve as a good point to warp to first and them MJU into docking range. But again, it's just better to manually set up a safe dock BM deep inside the station docking radius and warp to that instead.

I like where your head is at with trying to use niche mechanics to help, but I don't think this is necessary due to better mechanics already at hand.


There was an MJU elevator in front of Jita going to the next station.Shocked It's gone now though.

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