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Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#81 - 2015-10-14 09:43:16 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
I really should stop casting pearls before gallentes.


Don't change the subject. Find the exact value of Pi with the use of any circle. You are allowed to use a supercomputer to do so.

Look, tribal. That's the question I have asked in the start of discussion.
Please stop being dumb. Okay, thanks, bye.


Just admit that you are bullshitting on the exact value or I will keep hounding you and make you find the exact value of a Pi with the use of any circle.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#82 - 2015-10-14 09:50:22 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Just admit that you are bullshitting on the exact value or I will keep hounding you and make you find the exact value of a Pi with the use of any circle.

No, I am not "bullshitting". Cease your ignorance at once and leave the discussion, as you aren't bringing anything into it, displaying only your inability to comprehend and learn.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#83 - 2015-10-14 09:54:32 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Just admit that you are bullshitting on the exact value or I will keep hounding you and make you find the exact value of a Pi with the use of any circle.

No, I am not "bullshitting". Cease your ignorance at once and leave the discussion, as you aren't bringing anything into it, displaying only your inability to comprehend and learn.


No, I am not going to leave the discussion.

What is the exact value of Pi? Use any circular object you can find and find it out.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#84 - 2015-10-14 10:08:56 UTC
Minmatar idiot.
You don't calculate it with "circular object". Science went way deeper now than you are imagining.
Any decimal digit of pi can be calculated by formula with rapid converging series.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#85 - 2015-10-14 10:24:57 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
I really should stop casting pearls before gallentes.


Don't change the subject. Find the exact value of Pi with the use of any circle. You are allowed to use a supercomputer to do so.

Look, tribal. That's the question I have asked in the start of discussion.
Please stop being dumb. Okay, thanks, bye.


No, the question you asked in the start of the discussion was:

Diana Kim wrote:

But can you hold in your mind precise value of Pi?...


Not 'find the value of Pi with the use of any circle and a supercomputer'. And the precise value of Pi is Pi. It's not even 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169 39937510582097494459230781640628620899862803 48253421170679821480865132823066470938446095 50582231725359408128481117450284102701938521 10555964462294895493038196442881097566593344 61284756482337867831652712019091456485669234 60348610454326648213393607260249141273724587 00660631558817488152092096282925409171536436 78925903600113305305488204665213841469519415 11609433057270365759591953092186117381932611 79310511854807446237996274956735188575272489 12279381830119491298336733624406566430860213 94946395224737190702179860943702770539217176 29317675238467481846766940513200056812714526 35608277857713427577896091736371787214684409 01224953430146549585371050792279689258923542 01995611212902196086403441815981362977477130 99605187072113499999983729780499510597317328 16096318595024459455346908302642522308253344 68503526193118817101000313783875288658753320 83814206171776691473035982534904287554687311 59562863882353787593751957781857780532171226
806613001927876611195909216420198, it's Pi.

That's the precise value of Pi. It's like asking 'what's the precise value of two?' - 'π' or 'pi', either way, is as valid and accurate a symbol for a precise mathematical value as '2'.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#86 - 2015-10-14 10:40:25 UTC
Goon, I wasn't asking for symbol. I don't care if you write 2 as 2 or II. I was asking about value.
Now git.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#87 - 2015-10-14 11:45:51 UTC
You really are as dumb as a whole box of rocks, ain'cha?
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#88 - 2015-10-14 13:26:20 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
You really are as dumb as a whole box of rocks, ain'cha?

If you fail to comprehend easy concepts you shouldn't blame others in being dumb, that sounds ridiculous. Cease this crap at once, unless you want to grow up a clone nose.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#89 - 2015-10-14 15:24:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Diana Kim wrote:
Minmatar idiot.
You don't calculate it with "circular object". Science went way deeper now than you are imagining.
Any decimal digit of pi can be calculated by formula with rapid converging series.


You do, in fact, use a circular object to calculate Pi.

Let's make it easy for you to comprehend. The simplest method to start with calculating Pi:

C = 2 π r

Where C = Circumference and r = radian

2r = Diameter. We shall use the term D for this.

Therefore, C = D π

Take a circle, measure the Circumference and the Diameter. Treat these values as constants. Now find the exact value of π

To make it easy for you, you may use a supercomputer.

Science has gone deeper, but the basics are still the same. Science has not decided that C is not equal to 2 π r . Unless you can show me the alternate relationship between radians and circumference of a circle, you are still going to use this formula and calculate the π

You may also use a cylinder, a cone or a sphere.

Now calculate the exact value. Go on. I have plenty of time.

And don't go deciding that this is not one way to calculate Pi. You are Strike Commander, not Chief Mathematician and have no say in this matter.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#90 - 2015-10-14 21:18:00 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
You really are as dumb as a whole box of rocks, ain'cha?

If you fail to comprehend easy concepts you shouldn't blame others in being dumb, that sounds ridiculous. Cease this crap at once, unless you want to grow up a clone nose.


Ooooh, 'crap'. Kimmie's using the strong language now, folks.

Seriously, Kimmie, you should consult with your cloning techs to see if they make it a habit of jumping up and down on your clones' skulls while they're forming - your brains clearly dent themselves horribly during the transfer process.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#91 - 2015-10-14 21:33:22 UTC
Arrendis wrote:

Seriously, Kimmie, you should consult with your cloning techs to see if they make it a habit of jumping up and down on your clones' skulls while they're forming - your brains clearly dent themselves horribly during the transfer process.

Are you really that insane, goon?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#92 - 2015-10-15 01:22:23 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Arrendis wrote:

Seriously, Kimmie, you should consult with your cloning techs to see if they make it a habit of jumping up and down on your clones' skulls while they're forming - your brains clearly dent themselves horribly during the transfer process.

Are you really that insane, goon?


Where is the exact value of Pi that you allude so much about? Don't tell me you forgot about it already.

Or you are blind as well as being terrible at conceptualising mathematics unlike the rest of us?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#93 - 2015-10-15 03:18:09 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Are you really that insane, goon?


You mean insane enough to expect you to take an interest in the care of your own clones? Well, I keep expecting you to develop basic reasoning skills, so maybe.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#94 - 2015-10-15 14:30:54 UTC
Arrendis wrote:

You mean insane enough to expect you to take an interest in the care of your own clones? Well, I keep expecting you to develop basic reasoning skills, so maybe.

Goon talking about basic reasoning skills? Is this a standing comedy?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Wendrika Hydreiga
#95 - 2015-10-15 15:14:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Wendrika Hydreiga
Miss Kim, a question. I know this whole topic is about circle maths and stuff, but... The Caldari are all about squares and triangles! Shouldn't we be going after their triple angley divine secrets?

Only potato ships (like the ones used by a certain Federation we both love to hate), have curves in them! And that's terrible!

Grr curves! Hat curves!

So as a solution, I propose we debate the REAL key to godhood. Trigonometry! Yes! Triagles are way better, nearly indestructible and super cuddly and accute!
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#96 - 2015-10-15 15:30:06 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
Miss Kim, a question. I know this whole topic is about circle maths and stuff, but... The Caldari are all about squares and triangles! Shouldn't we be going after their triple angley divine secrets?

Only potato ships (like the ones used by a certain Federation we both love to hate), have curves in them! And that's terrible!

Grr curves! Hat curves!

So as a solution, I propose we debate the REAL key to godhood. Trigonometry! Yes! Triagles are way better, nearly indestructible and super cuddly and accute!


I will take six of those triangles and make a hexagon out of them.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#97 - 2015-10-15 16:16:30 UTC
So ... this conversation's turned really silly.

With respect to all concerned, though, I think what Ms. Kim is getting at is, that we don't really have the kind of ties into the fabric of reality you might expect from an actual god. Our function level is pretty high, but we're still essentially animals who've bootstrapped our tool use up to silly levels of sophistication, as opposed to, say, a being that can observe individual electrons unaided or something.

We're not universe-builders; we lack not only the tools, but also the perspective. We're residents and components of a universe, but we're not able to just spin one up out of raw will or whatever.

I think that's what she's maybe getting at. And, respectfully, I don't think it's a bad point. It's arguable from several angles, maybe, including the kind of high bar for what defines "a god," but that doesn't make it a foolish thing to say.

Respectfully, if we could address that point, I think that might be a more interesting conversation to have.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#98 - 2015-10-15 16:23:14 UTC
Thank you, Ms. Jenneth

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Wendrika Hydreiga
#99 - 2015-10-15 16:28:47 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
I will take six of those triangles and make a hexagon out of them.


Foolish fool! You are so predictable that I predicted your foolish move! I'll take EIGHT triangles and form the mighty Octahedron, the Scourge of Dimensions!

Your puny hexagon is no match to pure three dimensional triangle power of an Octahedron!

Mhahahahahaha! Who's the god now?!

...

...okay, I'll go be silly somewhere else!
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#100 - 2015-10-15 16:49:51 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
So ... this conversation's turned really silly.

With respect to all concerned, though, I think what Ms. Kim is getting at is, that we don't really have the kind of ties into the fabric of reality you might expect from an actual god. Our function level is pretty high, but we're still essentially animals who've bootstrapped our tool use up to silly levels of sophistication, as opposed to, say, a being that can observe individual electrons unaided or something.

We're not universe-builders; we lack not only the tools, but also the perspective. We're residents and components of a universe, but we're not able to just spin one up out of raw will or whatever.

I think that's what she's maybe getting at. And, respectfully, I don't think it's a bad point. It's arguable from several angles, maybe, including the kind of high bar for what defines "a god," but that doesn't make it a foolish thing to say.

Respectfully, if we could address that point, I think that might be a more interesting conversation to have.

I reject your "reality" and substitute my own, superior, version of reality.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.