Intergalactic Summit

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Look at those capsuleers, who claim to be "more than humans" - they show same principles of greed, mass murder and violence.

The only difference between capsuleers and not-capsuleers that capsuleers are canned meat, used as a reusable starship component. Average life time of a capsuleer is way less than of a baseliner. And considering capsuleers - or better a clones - are born already mature and don't need education, going in combat right after their birth in a cloning tube, this definitely don't add to clone longevity.

But, damn, all this cloning and "consciousness transfer" saves so much money for corporations instead of training new pilots!

So, they are more "humans" even than they want to think to? "Humanity" is saved, God's in his heaven, all's right with the world.

This is why our 'immortality' is an illusion.

Serially mortal, undead, etc etc perhaps, but definitely not immortal. We can still be ended permanently by something like technical failure or sabotage.

Despite being a piece of human trash, I find myself strangely inclined to agree with what Ser Nauplius is saying.

How strange...

Id rather try to imagine the quantitive amount of i (the square root of -1). Then again people always said my imagination went wild too much. That of course is just like a lot of the people who think they're demigods or whatever, just imaginative...

You really are a twit sometimes, aren't you?

First of all, 'pi' is not a variable, V, in this equation, is. Pi, rather, is a well-understood, fixed constant.

That said, Ms. Kim, I understand you're attempting to point people to the concept of the unknowable, but you're failing horribly. And you're failing because you're attempting to draw a comparison between abstracts. How many kilometers in pi kilometers, you ask - clearly, you're after the 'you can't ever say precisely because there is no last digit', but of course, pi is the ever-better-understood result of the relationship of two numbers, one of which will, if the other is a rational integer, always itself be irrational, infinitely-long, and non-repeating.

So, since you're fundamentally attempting to misrepresent how numbers work: Ms. Kim, can you show an example of 'two'?

Not 'two ships' or 'two [insert noun here]', but two, on its own. And, since you object to people claiming 'pi' is an answer, 'two', '2', and all other-language symbolic representations are also not considered to be valid answers.

Now, since in your example, you try to pull some nonsensical 'we can hold in our mind the value of three by thinking of three apples, now try to hold in your mind the value of pi' - sure. It's actually really simple. I have in my mind a cylinder - a platonic, perfect cylinder - exactly 1 centimeter in diameter, and 1 centimeter long. This circumference of the cylinder is pi centimeters long. The surface area of the cylinder is pi square centimeters.

I have absolutely no difficulty conceiving of this cylinder. Do you? Because it would seem I can demonstrate the conditions you claim are impossible: to hold and comprehend 'pi' in my mind in an objective, measurable form.

Now: can you demonstrate an example of 'two' that fits my criteria?

Please don't make this turn into a 'prove that 1 + 1 = 2' problem. That one makes my head hurt every time it turns up.

As Arrendis pointed out, V is a variable in this equation. Pi is, indeed, a constant.

But don't worry - plenty of people have trouble with the concept of Pi and require an approximation - then most of them can move on with their lives and forget about it entirely. Just they need to remember that an approximation of Pi is not equal to Pi - a fact they often forget.

(But for most cases, even those of precise engineering, an approximation of the constant is enough.)

Let adults talk says the 10 year old holy **** my sides

Fine, special for you, attempt #2.

Teacher:
Students, who can tell me how fast does light propagate in a vacuum?

Trii Seo:
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