Intergalactic Summit

I have heard a lot of things lately about demigods, even read some treatises of so-called "transhumanists". We now have powerful implants in our brains, and humans try to shift their "humanity" away...

Well, if you are one of these and really want to break through the barrier of limitations of human mind, I'd like to give you rather easy exercise. Of course, you can use all the implants and computers, provided they would be connected to your brain and you would be able to understand the information, not just "generate numbers".

Yes. The numbers. There are numbers everywhere and we think in them. We can have one ship, or two ships. We can split an apple on 10 parts and get 3 of them, which would be 0.3 of the apple. We could even split this apple to 3 parts and take one of it. And even if we can't write it in line as a decimal point - it would be 0.3(3) - infinite number of digits '3', we still can easily write it as "1/3". See? Everything can be measured and counted. As numbers or part of them. And we can easily hold them and comprehend in our minds.

But there are numbers, that we can't. Only the Maker can. There are quite a few of such 'divine' numbers that we can't get exact value of. And one of probably the most used is... Pi. Yes. Try to imagine a quantitive amount of Pi.

And I mean not like in tribal engineer textbook, saying that "For every minmatar engineer Pi is now equal to 3" And not even computing in your head each consequent decimal digit of Pi - yes, there are algorithm for them and you can make implants that would give you digit after digit of Pi, tens, hundreds, thousands, even millions and billions of digits. You might do this even incredibly fast...

But can you hold in your mind precise value of Pi?...

If you want to become a demigod - just try.

Draw a circle with the radius of 1, be that a meter, or kilometer if you're feeling adventurous.

Now, take your favorite crayon and color the area within the circle. In case of a kilometer one, you might need to mow some grass or scorch some surface with lasers.

Congratulations, you are not only looking at - but you have just created pi square meters! Fairly easy to gaze at, not at all mind-boggling.

And, FYI, Matari engineer textbooks assume the one studying it knows the constant well enough not to need to approximate it.

The question was about quantitative estimation, not definition of pi. And there's easier definition - without squares. If you draw a kilometer diameter circle, its circumference will have length pi kilometer.

Yet, how much is it? How many are there "apples" and fractions of apples in one Pi?
How many kilometers in one Pi?
Or in your case - how many are there square meters in pi square meters?

Captain Kim, I'd like to draw your attention to the world of Fractal Geometry.

Infinite detail contained within finite space.

42. The answer is 42. **** if I know what our favorite crazy lady is on about this time, but the answer is 42.

I have recently decided to fund a new award for those who take steps towards getting themselves killed for real.

It's called the "Dumbest Capsuleer of the Cluster". Also, flying without a pod is really, really, really inefficient compared to us - even empire's lap dogs know that, they knew that before cloning was even a big thing.

Philosophical aspects aside, the fact is simple: we ride, we die, and we ride again. Now that is a good baseline for the immortality part and it's fairly proven through both theory and empirical research.

If you can use the power of PI to bake a perfectly spherical pie the size of a planetoid, then you ARE God.

By the way, it's not 'divine number', it's 'irrational number'. Irrational numbers will have neverending decimal digits that will NOT ever end. That's why they are 'irrational' numbers.

Also, us Engineers use the value of Pi as 22/7 or 3.141 blah blah blah or just simplify it to 3.142, which is good enough for very accurate calculation. Tell us to imagine Pi and we imagine it as a circle. As it turns out, we can conceptualise Maths pretty well.

Do you even Math?

I say the better argument against us being Divine is if we can create NEW Math, that isn't already existing as part of the pre-existing system currently running in the universe.



To become a God you need to create the universe. As it turns out, creation of the universe and all its systems involve ALOT of Math. You can't create the universe if you can't Math.

So yes, if you strive for Godhood, mathematics is actually a really big deal.

Math is not myth. Red god is not myth. How much did you pay to pass capsuleer training?

Not all capsuleers are Sabik. Many of us are atheist.

And learn that your religion is not covered under basic education in the whole cluster, only in Amarr Empire as an example of heresy and in Sabik as part of basic education.

Can you back your claim with data and evidence?

If not, then it is nothing more than belief, just like how our Great Spirits are products of belief.