EVE General Discussion

ccp im okay with this, i'll just have to gank freighters twice as hard as normal to make up for it.

it would be cool if highsec was more player versus player instead of player versus developer

pm me salty things to say, i'm running out

Ah all the wise posters in this thread I see with their but hurt amplified....I have all but one coment.....

It's about my popcorns,sweet sweet popcorns I love em salty and warm....just like tears.

Does that mean that gankers will quit? Can i haz your stuff?

Actually this is part of the game. The other side has this opportunity as well and can figure out ways to make hauling insanely secure. Do you think CCP would then come in and remove this insanely secure way of hauling to 'balance' it? It seams the 'balancing' only ever goes in one direction, to protect the lazy who are not willing to think even a second about how they could protect their assets.

This change is not really a big deal for most gankers since they don't use it. After all it's not an easy technique, you need to know exactly what you are doing and it can be interrupted easily. This will not affect groups of ganker, however it once again make ganking bigger targets more difficult for smaller entities other than CODE. or Miniluv. Which in turn will drive more players to us obviously which means more exploding freighters.

Exactly this. Webbing being the major example, and I'd bet you every isk I have that CCP will never even consider patching that out, no matter how abusively broken it is to make capital ships warp in three-fifths of a second.

That reasoning ignores the idea of there being any more than one proper solution for hauling, which until recently was true. Now not so much. Balance in eve isn't just about what's mechanically possible but also what might be considered reasonable for each and every successful hauling occurrence. So while you can escort every freighter against the off chance a single player with the knowledge and setup, it would appear, provided the logic behind the thread is correct, that it wasn't considered reasonable.

I'm inclined to believe that considering the insinuation of freighter EHP being a deterrent during the addition of low slots to them, regardless of what the current tone of ganking suggested.

What does confuse me though is the idea that this is so rare, yet will concentrate gankers against freighters. Unless these smaller entities were hyperdunking, just with more members, there should be essentially no difference on that front. As far as concentration of gankers and more ganking, why is that an issue? This doesn't seem to be aimed at group ganks, just limits on individual criminal capabilities. Even if this is viewed as some incentive to gank more, even in the spirit of retaliation, that doesn't seem like a problem. Finding other exploits or questionable practices to work around the restriction on the other hand makes the statement I made apply perfectly.

Yeah, only one side should have to actually play the game.

That's balance alright.



I'm rolling up a new gank alt as we speak. For my part, whether it effects me or not, and it doesn't, I am damned tired of having people who actually play the game and create content incessantly nerfed for the sake of people who think they are entitled to afk their way through this PvP game without consequence.

I'm tired of CCP only listening to one kind of customer, and the kind that doesn't even really play the game in the first place.