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Don't let your dreams be dreams

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Kadesh Priestess
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#1 - 2015-10-06 19:03:31 UTC
W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#2 - 2015-10-06 19:15:23 UTC
dont let your memes be memes
Zura Namee
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-10-06 19:54:39 UTC
This just keeps getting better. Never stop posting.
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#4 - 2015-10-06 21:11:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
a long post for why did we cheat. Noone cares about your ~reasons~.
If you struggle to find enough people for internal training with no b-team, you maybe simply suck.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#5 - 2015-10-06 21:19:15 UTC
So not only did you collude, but you have now publicly admitted that Camel and Warlords were an A/B team combo (as if we didn't suspect already), thus breaking even more rules.

Every professional sports team has backups, bench warmers, and practice squads. That's how players get better while still helping the team as best they can. If they do well enough they get to play in games. If your team members can't accept that they won't necessarily participate in every match or aren't good enough to be chosen for a match, then they either need to get better or go to a different team so that they will get the nod come game time.

What you and everyone that knowingly participated in this sham have failed to realize is that the b-team and second-stringers are still a part of the team, even if they don't get to fly in every match, or even 1 match. Every single member of your team is important.

You have also made one serious mistake in your little essay.
Kadesh Priestess wrote:
2) Do tests with two equally skilled and motivated teams. Conclusive results, all the pilots are getting alot of practice flying their role, this approach is almost ideal. The biggest flaw - you have to have two teams.


24 players are 24 players whether they are on different teams or not, so long as they are practicing versus each other every session. Skirmishes vs "friends" in another alliance is exactly the same so long as those players are getting good practice. What matters is that those 24 players are practicing in a manner that enhances their abilities.

The problem arises when you take those 24+ people and split them into 2 technically different teams in order to double your chances of winning. You are allowed exactly one (1) team. Not 2. Not 3. Not 5. What matters is when you coordinate with a different team to use specific comps in a match, when you collude with another team as to the result of a match, and collude to share prizes.

When there is no collusion, even if your friends get knocked out early, they are **** out of luck. They get no prizes but the ones they earned. You pat them on the back, say "Better luck next time", and maybe help them to fix whatever went wrong. For example, none of the teams we practiced with have ever asked for or given any prizes as a result of the matches won by us or them.

Instead, you're all out trillions of isk in this year's prizes and several hundred billion from lost past AT prize ships, and you yourself are permanently barred from ever participating again. Now you will never know the satisfaction of actually winning the Alliance Tournament without having to cheat. You couldn't do it.

IMO if you can't win without breaking the rules, you haven't actually won. And now you never will.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Davis TetrisKing
The Vendunari
End of Life
#6 - 2015-10-07 00:17:03 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:
a long post for why did we cheat. Noone cares about your ~reasons~.
If you struggle to find enough people for internal training with no b-team, you maybe simply suck.


Honestly I thought it was a really good read.

It showed that what they straight up broke the rules, but I was still interested in their reasons.

I don't agree with them, but still a good read.
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#7 - 2015-10-07 04:20:53 UTC
Wow Kadesh, reading that thread you sound like a crazy person.
"You were hammering that pipe into your father's grave to speak with him, right?"
"Well yeah, i had to otherwise i wouldn't be able to speak with him, don't you get it?"
This crap, your attitude and all the leetists who sneer at playing by the rules are why i stopped watching AT years ago.


Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.

Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#8 - 2015-10-07 12:51:13 UTC
Kadesh you should do yourself a favor and stop any further flailing in the quicksand of this drama pit. Preferably before CCP takes the advice in that one post of the Failheap thread recommending that action be taken against your account itself if anything in your confessions contradicts anything you might have told CCP during their investigation. I'd quote it directly, but at the time if this post the Failheap is down thanks to the server load added from all this crap.

                      "LIVE FAST DIE." - traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]

Taraas Enko
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-10-07 15:03:33 UTC
Kadesh Priestess wrote:



Just **** off now TYVM
Captain Thunk
Explode. Now. Please.
Alliance. Now. Please.
#10 - 2015-10-07 16:01:22 UTC
So you're a pathological cheater, it's clear from reading what you've said, you truly believe you need to cheat and you think your only mistake was being caught. You justify it by telling yourself that everyone else cheats and hillariously you go on to link MonkeySphere posts from 2012 to support your claims Shocked Sphere, the troll that won't die thanks to the likes of you.

I am grateful for you posting, I was worried that CCP may take some flak for taking the action of disqualifying you and your teams due to the fact they're always constrained by what they can say and reveal of their investigation. But you cleared all that up when you confessed and underscored the simple truth that they had made exactly the right call. The only question is, did they go far enough? It's clear that you think cheating and hacking the client is normal behaviour.
Strider Alpha
TV Master Race
#11 - 2015-10-10 00:49:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Strider Alpha
Ah hahaha you smug kunte, I'm surprised this post wasn't removed since you just linked to an external site without saying anything else.

But thanks for the pages of dumb **** to read, as a carebear I don't get a lot of excitement.

There's always next year..... Oh wait! Bahawahaha

I'm sure you honestly don't care what anyone thinks or says about you, I would recommend not acting like a smug ******* all the time, but that may be difficult when your so full of ****.

-Irrelevant carebear scrub
Mr Rive
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#12 - 2015-10-10 09:27:13 UTC
Captain Thunk wrote:
So you're a pathological cheater, it's clear from reading what you've said, you truly believe you need to cheat and you think your only mistake was being caught. You justify it by telling yourself that everyone else cheats and hillariously you go on to link MonkeySphere posts from 2012 to support your claims Shocked Sphere, the troll that won't die thanks to the likes of you.

I am grateful for you posting, I was worried that CCP may take some flak for taking the action of disqualifying you and your teams due to the fact they're always constrained by what they can say and reveal of their investigation. But you cleared all that up when you confessed and underscored the simple truth that they had made exactly the right call. The only question is, did they go far enough? It's clear that you think cheating and hacking the client is normal behaviour.


Thats a lot of words for saying:
http://i.qkme.me/3oy5b6.jpg
Kaleesa
Pathogen Inc.
#13 - 2015-10-15 18:49:35 UTC
Kadesh Priestess wrote:
I regret nothing. If i could rewind time back, I just would be more opsec, so that no little ****** annoys me after the tournament. Anyone who has other mindset with ~honor~ or any other high-moral bullshit doesn't deserve to win. This is eve.


This right here says a lot about you. You are wrong and you are the one that didn't deserve to win. See you next AT... oh wait.