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ATXIII Collusion Investigation results

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TurboX3
Higher Than Everest
Fraternity.
#161 - 2015-10-07 09:11:00 UTC
This is crap from CCP... when PL can field 3 teams within AT.... yet again CCP shows it's incompetence as an authority figure.
Lucas Quaan
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#162 - 2015-10-07 09:42:33 UTC
W0lf Crendraven wrote:
Ur char looks like he has cancer or like he rides enternal through valhalla, shiny and chrome.

Thanks, I guess?
Escuro
Russian Thunder Squad
WE FORM V0LTA
#163 - 2015-10-07 09:44:17 UTC
CCP does it again!

First you allow teams to train together. Then you ban them out because you think they trained too well and decided to use it for their advantage.

CCP ruined the game again :D
OmgNoFreeNames
Guns Of Avalon
#164 - 2015-10-07 09:45:44 UTC
Kat Ayclism wrote:
CAUSE WEEEEEEEEEEEE ARE THE CHAMPIONNNNSSSS MY FRIEEEEEENNNNNDDDDDDDDDDD!

AND WEEEEEEEEEE'LL KEEP ON FIGHTING TO THE EENNNNNDDDDDDDDD

NO TIME FOR LOSERRRSSS CAUSE WEEEEEE ARRRREEEE THE CHAAAAAMMMPPIIIIOOOOONNNSSSS


OF THE WHIIIIIIIINEEEEE!!!111
Dani Lizardov
BRUTAL GENESIS
GaNg BaNg TeAm
#165 - 2015-10-07 09:47:41 UTC
I think eve alliance tournament was a joke.
4-5k watchers on the Twich.
That drama again does not helps it at all.

That is your monster :) now feed it !
Those bans, wont affect any future back stage plans.
You have not resolved the problem.
You have not even identified the problem .

Congrats to the new winners. Everyone that watched the finals sow why you were Not.
Coffee Rocks
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#166 - 2015-10-07 10:00:46 UTC
Obligatory:

R E K T



Good on you, CCP.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#167 - 2015-10-07 10:29:18 UTC
Good job CCP.

The Tears Must Flow

Swind
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#168 - 2015-10-07 11:28:58 UTC
Not banning the whole teams name by name from the next AT-s, (just banning the leaders) same like if we drop a mafia leader to prison, and he will organize and lead the organization from the jail, without any problem. Sadly, CCP has no balls.
Vollhov
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#169 - 2015-10-07 11:36:26 UTC
Ha ha.
After that to me they say that the heirs of equal chances to become the Emperor. Shocked
CCP push through PL. Twisted
Congrats. Attention

End of Time. I'm not fanatic, I'm just a servant by Her Majesty the Empress Jamyl Sarum I. It's time to leave this world to me. YC111 to YC117.12.10 20:00

ImYourMom
Retribution Holdings Corp
Retribution.
#170 - 2015-10-07 12:27:26 UTC
So everyone knew that the Outbreak and Hydra game was fixed even when it wasn't actually admitted. So why wasn't anything done about this?
ImYourMom
Retribution Holdings Corp
Retribution.
#171 - 2015-10-07 12:30:50 UTC
TurboX3 wrote:
This is crap from CCP... when PL can field 3 teams within AT.... yet again CCP shows it's incompetence as an authority figure.


I completely agree how PL was allowed to field 3 teams was a complete joke when other alliances were refused entry. Clearly PL has always been favoured by CCP. To be honest AT is just one big fix and I rellay have no interest anymore it because its just tainted
Keira Impevion
Zepthanui
#172 - 2015-10-07 12:43:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Keira Impevion
ImYourMom wrote:
So everyone knew that the Outbreak and Hydra game was fixed even when it wasn't actually admitted. So why wasn't anything done about this?


Because at this time there were no rules against it, before AT X teams were selling/throwing matches and it was perfectly fine with AT rules at this time.
Captain Thunk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#173 - 2015-10-07 12:45:57 UTC
ImYourMom wrote:
TurboX3 wrote:
This is crap from CCP... when PL can field 3 teams within AT.... yet again CCP shows it's incompetence as an authority figure.


I completely agree how PL was allowed to field 3 teams was a complete joke when other alliances were refused entry. Clearly PL has always been favoured by CCP. To be honest AT is just one big fix and I rellay have no interest anymore it because its just tainted


None of the "PL Teams" ever fought each other so there was no opportunity for collusion. That's before you go into scrimming together, sharing resources and the rest which were legal but PL did not do. The three teams are entirely independent whether you want to accept that or not. I doubt next years rules will allow Waffles or Horde to compete due to their proximity to PL, which is understandable considering the position CCP have been put in by people who don't understand the difference between metagaming and cheating.

Good decision CCP and Logibro.

I'm kinda glad Kadesh decided to have a public meltdown on FHC and confessed they did infact cheat as well as possibly more, as it validates the fact that CCP were spot on with their decision.
W0lf Crendraven
TeamTama
#174 - 2015-10-07 13:15:34 UTC
I also want to say that i disagree with the final placings, while nulli indeed lost to pl neither the tuskers nor exodus did. They simply got seeded in a different spot and had to to meet hydramel twice before pl had to, which - just as pl, knocked them out.


In that persective, 3 of the top 4 went unbeated by any legit tournament team, crowing any one of them as the number 1 is wrong and unfair.


Simply not crowning a victor and destributing the prices in a even matter amongst the top 4 would be by far the better ruling.
Centra Spike
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#175 - 2015-10-07 13:48:49 UTC
TOO BAD SO SAD

Follow us @PLIRC!

SwissChris1
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#176 - 2015-10-07 13:50:23 UTC
Kadesh (October 6 2015, 07:00:49 PM): "I regret nothing. If i could rewind time back, I just would be more opsec, so that no little ****** annoys me after the tournament. Anyone who has other mindset with ~honor~ or any other high-moral bullshit doesn't deserve to win. This is eve. "

source: http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?20287-Don-t-let-your-dreams-be-dreams
OmgNoFreeNames
Guns Of Avalon
#177 - 2015-10-07 14:02:11 UTC  |  Edited by: OmgNoFreeNames
Both teams won, and shared their prises. Seems legit.
Captain Thunk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#178 - 2015-10-07 14:05:54 UTC
OmgNoFreeNames wrote:
And why he had to post it on failheap instead of using this forum?


Because you're not allowed to discuss cheating or exploits one eve-o
ImYourMom
Retribution Holdings Corp
Retribution.
#179 - 2015-10-07 16:57:11 UTC
W0lf Crendraven wrote:
I also want to say that i disagree with the final placings, while nulli indeed lost to pl neither the tuskers nor exodus did. They simply got seeded in a different spot and had to to meet hydramel twice before pl had to, which - just as pl, knocked them out.


In that persective, 3 of the top 4 went unbeated by any legit tournament team, crowing any one of them as the number 1 is wrong and unfair.


Simply not crowning a victor and destributing the prices in a even matter amongst the top 4 would be by far the better ruling.


I absolutely agree with this. IF ANYTHING CCP should of just had rematch with the next top 3. Completely wrong to allow PL 1st. Makespecially me feel CCP are now cheating. .
Lovey Dovey
Doomheim
#180 - 2015-10-07 17:08:29 UTC
W0lf Crendraven wrote:
I also want to say that i disagree with the final placings, while nulli indeed lost to pl neither the tuskers nor exodus did. They simply got seeded in a different spot and had to to meet hydramel twice before pl had to, which - just as pl, knocked them out.


In that persective, 3 of the top 4 went unbeated by any legit tournament team, crowing any one of them as the number 1 is wrong and unfair.


Simply not crowning a victor and destributing the prices in a even matter amongst the top 4 would be by far the better ruling.


That's how tournament brackets work at all. Warlords/Camel were disqualified due to Match 117b being fixed, which is after the match that knocked Exodus into the Losers Bracket. Tuskers were in the Losers Bracket already at that point as well, while simultaneously PL were advancing higher in the Winners Bracket which put them at a higher seed.

That's how the double elimination bracket works, people in the Winners Bracket are seeded higher as they progress. PL eventually ended in the Winners Bracket finals (Match 123a), which again placed them under the double elimination bracket system at a higher seed than Tuskers & Exodus. This is how that sort of system works and determines who is in what position.

Instead of demanding CCP give teams that didn't get seeded higher in terms of the bracket ships they didn't earn, it'd be a far more logical step to argue that the double elimination bracket system is faulty and needs contingencies to account for these sort of things if not have the AT use a wholly different system.