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Dev blog: Testing a new EVE Launcher

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Jaantrag
#361 - 2015-10-16 13:01:02 UTC
CCP Snorlax wrote:
Jaantrag wrote:
dev build .. keep asking to migrate old settings everytime i open the launcher .. little checkbox with "dont ask again-u can do it from settings" would be nice :)

It should only ask once.


it kept asking every tie it updated/ and restarted the launcher and then when i opened it up myself .. now after DT today its not asking \o/

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Madbuster73
State War Academy
Caldari State
#362 - 2015-10-16 14:10:48 UTC
I saw a lot of people have issues with the LAUNCH/STOP and UNLINK buttons as they are too close to each other.
I experienced that I often click on the unlink while I meant to click on STOP since a CROSS normally means close client.

Thats why I made this mockup as an example how I think it would be much better:

Launcher Mockup

I hope this is a good idea.
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#363 - 2015-10-16 23:51:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Salpun
The game when opening in window mode opens non maximized and cannot be resized vertically making me have to change it to maximized before I can access the functions at the bottom of the window. I am using a laptop running Windows 10 with a touch screen. I think this is an issue with windows 10 and the graphics driver default pulls. Any way this can be fixed with the new launcher?

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
Kal'Han
Kador Trade Company
#364 - 2015-10-17 00:56:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Kal'Han
Salpun wrote:
The game when opening in window mode opens non maximized and cannot be resized vertically making me have to change it to maximized before I can access the functions at the bottom of the window. I am using a laptop running Windows 10 with a touch screen. I think this is an issue with windows 10 and the graphics driver default pulls. Any way this can be fixed with the new launcher?


window mode has never been maximized, at least not fully (it was missing a few pixel and displaying the border)

windows 10 is worse as you lose hundreds of pixels. see if this can help you, it's made for windowed mode on single screen, works for 1 or more clients, it will auto maximize clients for you


this could be fixed by ccp at client level, or at launcher level with a similar tweak. glad to see I'm not the only one having this issue with windowed mode
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#365 - 2015-10-17 01:36:27 UTC
Kal'Han wrote:
Salpun wrote:
The game when opening in window mode opens non maximized and cannot be resized vertically making me have to change it to maximized before I can access the functions at the bottom of the window. I am using a laptop running Windows 10 with a touch screen. I think this is an issue with windows 10 and the graphics driver default pulls. Any way this can be fixed with the new launcher?


window mode has never been maximized, at least not fully (it was missing a few pixel and displaying the border)

windows 10 is worse as you lose hundreds of pixels. see if this can help you, it's made for windowed mode on single screen, works for 1 or more clients, it will auto maximize clients for you


this could be fixed by ccp at client level, or at launcher level with a similar tweak. glad to see I'm not the only one having this issue with windowed mode

Took some time figuring it out launching that window before using my normal short cut finally got it to work.

You might want to clear up that step in the directions and you got an extra copy step in the make short cut step.

Thanks

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
amber roses
Doomheim
#366 - 2015-10-17 13:13:20 UTC
the client launcher wiped all my chat channels not like I had many but also it took awhile to get backed up and I didn't like that to much and honestly I don't like it all that well its nice yes if the test servers going on it good yea but the wiping of the chat channels kinda sucks
Jaantrag
#367 - 2015-10-17 13:20:52 UTC
amber roses wrote:
the client launcher wiped all my chat channels not like I had many but also it took awhile to get backed up and I didn't like that to much and honestly I don't like it all that well its nice yes if the test servers going on it good yea but the wiping of the chat channels kinda sucks



its beta for a reason .. it actualy didint lose anything just made a new batch of settings
using the old laucnher u will still be able to use ur old settings or just manually move em to new location :
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6082647#post6082647

or wait till the settings migration tool is implemented into the beta version ..

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UK Deimos Necro
Doomheim
#368 - 2015-10-17 18:23:04 UTC
Loving the new launcher! Makes logging in all my accounts far easier!
Ragori Mitternacht
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#369 - 2015-10-17 18:32:39 UTC
Been having an odd problem, I run three accounts but when I try and log the third one on it always crashes while the other two continue to function as they should. not sure what to do. Any advice would be gladly accepted.

The launcher just says the client closed unexpectedly. So not sure what is going on.
Kal'Han
Kador Trade Company
#370 - 2015-10-17 22:35:08 UTC
Ragori Mitternacht wrote:
Been having an odd problem, I run three accounts but when I try and log the third one on it always crashes while the other two continue to function as they should. not sure what to do. Any advice would be gladly accepted.

The launcher just says the client closed unexpectedly. So not sure what is going on.


soooo many things could been wrong, but let's clear this first, can you run 3 client with old launcher or individually (is this only when you use the beta launcher)

next you would need to describes exactly what happens when client crashes, try using logserver to make a preliminary diagnostic
Vortl
Black Cloud Industries
#371 - 2015-10-18 09:42:49 UTC
The New Launcher is a great start towards a better experience for the player base - well done.

Unfortunately I am more than a little disappointed that there is no facility to swap characters / Alts without dropping all the way out of the game and the launcher. EvE is clearly a Alt driven environment and you just make it harder to play your alts than any other game I have played.

Clearly being in beta there are a few niggles to be expected like the overviews and browser favourites not carrying over but those are minor and I am sure you have a fix lined up for them. I like the idea given by a post above to store some of that in a cloud so it can be stored there and not lost on reinstalls etc.

All in all great work

Smile
Bertral
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
Goonswarm Federation
#372 - 2015-10-18 17:19:32 UTC
I'm using the new launcher, and is great !
However, while playing dota I noticed that I had lag spikes every 20 seconds. I turns out it was because of the new EVE laucher.
I guess it's checking the server's status. Could we have an option to disable this ?
Masao Kurata
Perkone
Caldari State
#373 - 2015-10-18 19:51:59 UTC
Bertral wrote:
I'm using the new launcher, and is great !
However, while playing dota I noticed that I had lag spikes every 20 seconds. I turns out it was because of the new EVE laucher.
I guess it's checking the server's status. Could we have an option to disable this ?


That's enough to cause a lag spike? Surely there isn't enough network activity for this so maybe there's high cpu load? If so that should be fixed to be less intensive, not removed.
Bertral
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
Goonswarm Federation
#374 - 2015-10-18 20:21:46 UTC
Masao Kurata wrote:
Bertral wrote:
I'm using the new launcher, and is great !
However, while playing dota I noticed that I had lag spikes every 20 seconds. I turns out it was because of the new EVE laucher.
I guess it's checking the server's status. Could we have an option to disable this ?


That's enough to cause a lag spike? Surely there isn't enough network activity for this so maybe there's high cpu load? If so that should be fixed to be less intensive, not removed.


The ressource monitor clearly shows spikes caused by evelauncher.exe (http://i.imgur.com/aUAchQN.png orange is the launcher). Some games like dota and LoL are very sensitive to small network activities.
CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
#375 - 2015-10-19 13:20:06 UTC
Bertral wrote:
Masao Kurata wrote:
Bertral wrote:
I'm using the new launcher, and is great !
However, while playing dota I noticed that I had lag spikes every 20 seconds. I turns out it was because of the new EVE laucher.
I guess it's checking the server's status. Could we have an option to disable this ?


That's enough to cause a lag spike? Surely there isn't enough network activity for this so maybe there's high cpu load? If so that should be fixed to be less intensive, not removed.


The ressource monitor clearly shows spikes caused by evelauncher.exe (http://i.imgur.com/aUAchQN.png orange is the launcher). Some games like dota and LoL are very sensitive to small network activities.

I'm investigating this. Seems like there is an issue with the underlying network library I'm using when running on WiFi. I expect to have a fix shortly.

CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
Lelira Cirim
Doomheim
#376 - 2015-10-19 22:47:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Lelira Cirim
Tried it out today and really appreciate how easy it is to launch SISI. Seriously, dualboxing SISI is something I've never tried, and click, done.

Could you please include information in the launcher about the date of the current SISI mirror? Maybe a little blinky when it changes? :)
(Next best thing to getting a week's warning. hehe)

I'm very glad I rid myself of Steam accounts, but I can see this launcher also being very helpful with the annoyances of that.

Do not actively tank my patience.
Jatok Reknar
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#377 - 2015-10-19 23:33:26 UTC
I just wanted to chime in and say, this new launcher is just brilliant. For someone like me running multiple accounts, it is a massive quality of life improvement, including the thoughtful feature of no restarting a client if an acct is running. Love it! Big smile Thanks CCP!
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#378 - 2015-10-19 23:39:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximus Aerelius
For transferring\copying EVE settings from Normal Launcher to BETA please view:

Steve Ronuken wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-3zl3Ly-Vw


Hey CCP Snorlax, can we get this stickied\added to the the OP at all?

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Slappy Andven
Gildinous Vangaurd
The Initiative.
#379 - 2015-10-20 00:11:19 UTC
Logins to various test servers: If I have already entered my account information for TQ, why do I have to redo it for SISI or Duality? Couldn't it save just the credentials, and when I log into one of the other test servers, make profiles or whatever it does for each account?

Would be really nice if it saved window positions across multiple monitors when launching an account.

-- 

Slappy Andven

CEO Natural Born Killas
skarphace
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#380 - 2015-10-20 06:42:47 UTC
Are support tickets reported via the beta launcher going to your old ticketing system? I think my ticket was lost because it isn't showing up in zendesk like I would expect.