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Dev blog: Testing a new EVE Launcher

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Wild Bill Walker
Doomheim
#241 - 2015-10-09 16:19:12 UTC
this is just awesome and a perfects step in a great direction

its going to be so much easier to swap accounts but cant wait until its exportable...

thnx so mch
Erika Mizune
Lucifer's Hammer
A Band Apart.
#242 - 2015-10-09 19:50:49 UTC
I love this soooo much <3 I tried it this morning, logged into all 4 accounts, and clicked one button and BAM they all opened! So much more efficient!

Only issue is that I like to minimize the launcher when I have my clients up when I need to switch toons, the launcher froze up when I tried to hit the minimize button.

Tho it looks like that's on the 'known issue" list already. Other than that, I am liking this very much. :)

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Dograzor
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#243 - 2015-10-09 21:35:29 UTC
I absolutely love this new launcher, it delivers as CCP FourFox showed on Evesterdam.

However - I am not running anything through it until I can import my settings.

I really can't be bothered setting up channels/overviews/settings etc (being in 30+ channels ingame alone), so I will wait with using it permanently until the import feature has been released.
Brian Harrelstein
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#244 - 2015-10-09 21:36:24 UTC
still takes 5 minutes to load (seriously). its actually worse than the other launcher.

i7-4790k
16gb memory
gtx 980
128gb ssd
40/10 internet

it's not my computer. there's something funky going on either in the launcher web code or the web server its trying to use. (why does the launcher use a web browser anyways, can't you guys just code the thing in C like normal people? P)
Kal'Han
Kador Trade Company
#245 - 2015-10-09 21:48:10 UTC
I'm liking the launcher, especially since I could copy it on my nas and not use setup.exe on my boxes

I'd really like a "zip" distrib, but I can live without it.


What i miss the most is the small links from old launcher, especially the patch note link with is one of the most link I clicked, but in all fairness, I think the whole community hub should be accessible from launcher, at least forums


What i fear is the settings managements for the future, ok the EXEFILE was moved, deal with it, but what the heck is this string of numbers at the end of the folder, looks like an ip adress
is it the cluster IP? (didn't check, does it change sometime, that change could be funny)

well, I'd like to suggest, but that's not really a launcher issue I guess, that the settings for the application be changeable, at launcher level for example
that would be great for my nas and multiple computer,
it would make sense to use multiple settings : example 1 big ass desktop for cutting edge survival, 2 lazy couch mining on LCD in front of bed without keyboard so windowed/zoomed (as it is I don't see the use on a local computer for multiple settings)
it would also prevent castrophic clusterfuck settings when using roaming profile or some profile sync software (well this one was a stupid experience, so once again maybe not relevant on a global scale)


More important for me : playing in windowed mode with the windows maximized. as this is still not addressed I made a script doing that i'll test if it works with the new launcher and it's multi lauch option.
Dominous Nolen
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#246 - 2015-10-09 22:25:49 UTC
I like the launcher so far, but.....

I can't seem to complete the login process at this time with any account. I was able to link one of my player accounts with out issue and when I attempted to login a second the screen would freeze during the two factor authentication entry until well past the time the entered code was still valid.

After multiple attempts to launch the new launcher I am not long even able to sign into an account correctly. I can enter my creds into the client, click login and nothing occurs.

@dominousnolen

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Kal'Han
Kador Trade Company
#247 - 2015-10-09 22:30:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Kal'Han
ok, so here I go again after testing multilaunch, I have issues

I like my first account to be the one I start playing with. habit, and windowed mode allows me the use of the task bar and ordering there is dependant on launch order.

unfortunately multilaunch is ... not focus friendly : a second, and a third client will steal the focus of the one you are starting to play with, not enjoying that, and ppl in full screen should be really fuming about that (or not if they don't care which client is runing)


I saw that the launcher is using qtlib... I know this one a bit and as a nice multi platform c++ lib as it gets, there is no process control in windows sense (launching minimized, launching no foreground, etc)
it's in the docs and qt forum (qtprocess + windows + minimized)

so I guess we are stuck with this or maybe the "play" button is not using qtprocess but somethin else and we are all saved

alternative would be to add some switches to exefile like 'nofocus', "goinbackgroundyoudunce"



good news, for me anyways, my own launcher for the eve launcher that maximize windows and minimize background ones (to get more fps) is still working after an update


so for me
- no bugs
- missing links/content but survivable
- multilaunch will need getting used to, but SAVING PASSWORD FTW

Adopted


edit - I have a bug... sisi won't launch but logs says access denied from the web server at eveonline, so I guess new build not updated in launcher for a fresh install... or somethin, bug reported

and a feature request : double clicking on a account name to launch the game instead of clicking the small launch button could be nice
McCoy Rick
Legend of the Space Heroes
#248 - 2015-10-10 01:11:27 UTC
I want New Launcher has select which DirectX version, such as DirectX 9 or DirectX 11
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#249 - 2015-10-10 01:25:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Salpun
Getting "index not available" on the new launcher old launcher works fine when trying to access Sisi.

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Andi Onthatop
Hi I'm Andi
#250 - 2015-10-10 04:05:10 UTC
Thanks for the new launcher!

It looks like if one launches some a client through the launcher and then closes and reopens the launcher while that client is still running, the new invocation of the launcher doesn't detect that a client for that account is already running. Is this a technical issue?

Is there a list somewhere of what settings are stored in a settings profile? I setup hotkeys/audio settings/overview profile on one of my accounts using the profile 'Settings 1' and when I used that profile with other accounts through the launcher they didn't have the new hotkeys/audio settings/overview profile.
Apsala Erikson
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#251 - 2015-10-10 05:28:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Apsala Erikson
Kal'Han wrote:


I have a bug... sisi won't launch but logs says access denied from the web server at eveonline, so I guess new build not updated in launcher for a fresh install... or somethin, bug reported


i have the same as above, logs have this error

error Couldn't get index for "Singularity" - "Error downloading https://d17ueqc3zm9j8o.cloudfront.net/eveonline_969924.txt - server replied: Forbidden"


In the status bar
Index not available 0.0%

When Launching Sisi
Incompatible (Build)

Server List
Tranquility 969345 Ready 100%
Singularity 969924 Index not available 0.0%
Duality 968465 Ready 100%
Multiplicity 969345 Ready 100%
Chaos 1000002 Index not available 0.0%
Darkblad
Doomheim
#252 - 2015-10-10 06:20:55 UTC
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#253 - 2015-10-10 06:49:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
Is it intentional behavior that the launcher logs in all the accounts upon successfully entering the correct credentials for one account? Yesterday, I manually logged in all my accounts and did not tick the "remember me" box. In the meantime, I closed my launcher, restarted the computer (sleep, wonderful), but I closed the launcher with the accounts still logged in. Today, I logged in one of my accounts and found all other accounts (still?) logged in in the launcher and ready to start.

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Arqk
Sharhelund Industries Discovery
#254 - 2015-10-10 07:12:01 UTC
Same here, logging one account, log all account without authentification (without the remember option checked)

Possible to get an option "reduce to system tray"?

This morning one of my account lose all the "setting 1" is this normal? (as the launcher is in Beta)
Max Kolonko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#255 - 2015-10-10 07:42:25 UTC
1. How to get my settings from eve to launcher so I dont have to set everything up from the start?
2. today I could not launch SISI, launcher got stuck at "please wait..." at the patching bar
Darkblad
Doomheim
#256 - 2015-10-10 07:54:10 UTC
Max Kolonko wrote:
1. How to get my settings from eve to launcher so I dont have to set everything up from the start?
2. today I could not launch SISI, launcher got stuck at "please wait..." at the patching bar

1. Further up this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6085271#post6085271
2. Further up this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6089861#post6089861 (and posts below)

NPEISDRIP

Kal'Han
Kador Trade Company
#257 - 2015-10-10 09:04:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Kal'Han
Darkblad wrote:
It appears that the permissions of the files for Sisi and Chaos are broken:


403 forbidden is more likely caused by missing file ( 404 file not found is not "secure", 403 is better)

the url to the text file for sisi is stating the build for sisi is 969924

when you open the json file in the launcher folder you'll see a url to another text file for sisi http://client.eveonline.com/patches/premium_patchinfoSISI_inc.txt
this "patchinfo" file for sisi says 969924

the build is from yesterday and i'm guessing this URLs and chain of TXT files is new for this eve launcher, look, previous build number is ok : https://d17ueqc3zm9j8o.cloudfront.net/eveonline_968832.txt
did someone forgot to upload the correct file list/manifest or something?

so I fired up a webserver, copied the http://client.eveonline.com/patches/premium_patchinfoSISI_inc.txt and replaced the build number and I modified the severs.json file to go to my local webserver but even then the launcher is ignoring the numbers I set in the files. (this was to test if at least the singularity client was downloading, but no, it still try to go to the latest)


so it is strictly a problem from eve server side, like we always say at work : never patch on a friday :D


EDIT :
never patch TWICE on a friday?! lol http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/server_status.php there was 2 build yesterday, TQ works fine, that's all that matters anyway. sisi will wait
CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
#258 - 2015-10-10 09:12:52 UTC
Dograzor wrote:
I absolutely love this new launcher, it delivers as CCP FourFox showed on Evesterdam.

However - I am not running anything through it until I can import my settings.

I really can't be bothered setting up channels/overviews/settings etc (being in 30+ channels ingame alone), so I will wait with using it permanently until the import feature has been released.

We're working on the settings migration - expect an update on the new launcher sometime next week.

CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/

CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
#259 - 2015-10-10 09:14:53 UTC
Sisi should be available again through the beta launcher now - there was a minor issue on the backend.

CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/

Saundie
Limitless Power
#260 - 2015-10-10 09:19:37 UTC
Thank you for finally making this a reality - it's a significant improvement over the old launcher!