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Who are the Good Guys in EVE?
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Kitty Qiao
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-10-05 19:42:48 UTC
I've done some reading about corps and alliances in EVE and their history and am left wondering. Who would you all say are the good guys in the current game today? Is their a strong corp/alliance that is in opposition to The Imperium/CODE/Goons etc? If the for mentioned corp/alliances are not seen by the general player base as the bad guys in the game then what are they or who is?
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-10-05 19:51:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
EvE is a sandbox full of kids ... the bad guy is defined by the inherent principles of a sandbox, destroy somebody's sand castle, build the highest, best looking sand castle, use the priciest tools, have more buddies, etc. You get the point?Lol

I'm my own NPC alt.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#3 - 2015-10-05 19:54:15 UTC
<-----mercanary ,pay me enough isk and I will be the good guy.

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Kitty Qiao
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-10-05 20:01:03 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
EvE is a sandbox full of kids ... the bad guy is defined by the inherent principles of a sandbox, destroy somebody's sand castle, build the highest, best looking sand castle, use the priciest tools, have more buddies, etc. You get the point?Lol

Yes, Tipa I get the point but my question remains unanswered. Who are known to be the good guys protecting others sand castles and waging war against those that aim to destroy them?
Kitty Qiao
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-10-05 20:02:29 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
<-----mercanary ,pay me enough isk and I will be the good guy.

Is this profitable for you? Being good? What is the ISK per hour on being an active mercenary?
Thierry Orlenard
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-10-05 20:03:26 UTC
Kitty Qiao wrote:
Tipa Riot wrote:
EvE is a sandbox full of kids ... the bad guy is defined by the inherent principles of a sandbox, destroy somebody's sand castle, build the highest, best looking sand castle, use the priciest tools, have more buddies, etc. You get the point?Lol

Yes, Tipa I get the point but my question remains unanswered. Who are known to be the good guys protecting others sand castles and waging war against those that aim to destroy them?



Aside from a few individuals who RP being against CODE for the purpose of bringing more PvP to hisec, nobody. It's every man for himself here -- or hire a merc to fight for you.
BearThatCares
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#7 - 2015-10-05 20:07:25 UTC
Kitty Qiao wrote:
Tipa Riot wrote:
EvE is a sandbox full of kids ... the bad guy is defined by the inherent principles of a sandbox, destroy somebody's sand castle, build the highest, best looking sand castle, use the priciest tools, have more buddies, etc. You get the point?Lol

Yes, Tipa I get the point but my question remains unanswered. Who are known to be the good guys protecting others sand castles and waging war against those that aim to destroy them?



There aren't really any good guys. Nearly every corporation has kicked down someones sandcastle for some reason or another. It's only a game, so why not?

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Paranoid Loyd
#8 - 2015-10-05 20:10:30 UTC
There is no bad(black) or good(white) in EVE, only shades of gray.

To some I am the epitome of evil, to others I am one of the most helpful people around. Just depends on which side of the anti-matter you end up on and how you respond to it after the fact if you end up on the wrong end.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#9 - 2015-10-05 20:15:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Kitty Qiao wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
<-----mercanary ,pay me enough isk and I will be the good guy.

Is this profitable for you? Being good? What is the ISK per hour on being an active mercenary?

being a merc? yeah i get by. only "good" when paid to be so once in blue moon really.

isk/ph is something like an old man pees, some times in drip and drabs, sometimes not at all, sometimes unexpectedly all at once.
Kitty Qiao wrote:
Tipa Riot wrote:
EvE is a sandbox full of kids ... the bad guy is defined by the inherent principles of a sandbox, destroy somebody's sand castle, build the highest, best looking sand castle, use the priciest tools, have more buddies, etc. You get the point?Lol

Yes, Tipa I get the point but my question remains unanswered. Who are known to be the good guys protecting others sand castles and waging war against those that aim to destroy them?

Mercenary's, you just described a "defence contract",

worth noting though we would just as readily shoot you in the face if paid for it...actually we just like to shoot people in the face in general so we technically pretty "Bad"

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Kirk Ernaga
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2015-10-05 20:16:34 UTC
Kitty Qiao wrote:
I've done some reading about corps and alliances in EVE and their history and am left wondering. Who would you all say are the good guys in the current game today? Is their a strong corp/alliance that is in opposition to The Imperium/CODE/Goons etc? If the for mentioned corp/alliances are not seen by the general player base as the bad guys in the game then what are they or who is?

Hard to say. I agree its all a matter of perspective. For example by your standards proviblock might the good guys even if they aren't by mine.
Thierry Orlenard
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-10-05 20:18:21 UTC
Kirk Ernaga wrote:
Kitty Qiao wrote:
I've done some reading about corps and alliances in EVE and their history and am left wondering. Who would you all say are the good guys in the current game today? Is their a strong corp/alliance that is in opposition to The Imperium/CODE/Goons etc? If the for mentioned corp/alliances are not seen by the general player base as the bad guys in the game then what are they or who is?

Hard to say. I agree its all a matter of perspective. For example by your standards proviblock might the good guys even if they aren't by mine.



But eww, Amarr.
BirdStrike
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-10-05 20:27:43 UTC
There is only one.

Chribba.
Memphis Baas
#13 - 2015-10-05 20:28:26 UTC
Your corp is the good guys, everyone else is the bad guys.

Even the Goons, if you actually join them and are decent at the game, turn out to be very nice, normal people, who will have your back. Being a game, corps and alliances fight each other because it's fun, not because of economics, moral or religious issues, or whatever. So, I mean, technically there is no "evil"; just actions that the game allows, and actions that the game does not allow.

Thus, your circle of friends / corp / alliance is the good guys, everyone else is the bad guys.
Kitty Qiao
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2015-10-05 20:34:23 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
Your corp is the good guys, everyone else is the bad guys.

Even the Goons, if you actually join them and are decent at the game, turn out to be very nice, normal people, who will have your back. Being a game, corps and alliances fight each other because it's fun, not because of economics, moral or religious issues, or whatever. So, I mean, technically there is no "evil"; just actions that the game allows, and actions that the game does not allow.

Thus, your circle of friends / corp / alliance is the good guys, everyone else is the bad guys.

Interesting. Thank you.
Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#15 - 2015-10-05 20:58:39 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2015-10-05 21:00:02 UTC
Like other's have said this game is not so much a black and white game with clear good guys and bad guys. It's actually much more realistic. It's a game full of individuals that do things for their own reasons.

That being said there are some people that role play being "the good guys" in a sense. In the region of Providence there are people that police the region with rules somewhat similar to high sec. They claim that they are reclaiming Provi for the glory of the Amarr empire. So if you want to RP being the good guy that might be an option.

In the end where all just a bunch of humans playing a video game so no corp or alliance is without it's good sides and bad sides. I'm just saying that if you want to fight the good fight and not just fight over space for the sake of fighting over space then maybe NRDS gameplay is for you.

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Valerian STA
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2015-10-05 23:28:25 UTC
There's the Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

Sic Transit Gloria Mundi
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#18 - 2015-10-05 23:48:25 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
Your corp is the good guys, everyone else is the bad guys.

Even the Goons, if you actually join them and are decent at the game, turn out to be very nice, normal people, who will have your back. Being a game, corps and alliances fight each other because it's fun, not because of economics, moral or religious issues, or whatever. So, I mean, technically there is no "evil"; just actions that the game allows, and actions that the game does not allow.

Thus, your circle of friends / corp / alliance is the good guys, everyone else is the bad guys.



This.

EVE is a competitive game. Even if the effect is too small to measure, your gain is everyone else's loss.

If you suddenly gained a quarter trillion ISK (quite a lot, but there's lots of players with ten times that amount or more), any move you make to spend it will change the game economy considerably. I personally caused a noticeable gamewide increase in the cost of tech two invention just by spending 6 billion ISK stockpiling decryptors - every time you buy a tech 2 module, it's (very slightly) more expensive because of me.

There is no good or bad in game. There's plenty out of game (which is why some of the biggest e-assholes in game, people like me, chipped in to raise a fair amount in the Nepal charity fundraiser event CCP ran a while back).

Listen to the trailer from the Inferno expansion a few years back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kED11aGobUk . The first minute of it has an in-universe character talking about morality in EVE.

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Memphis Baas
#19 - 2015-10-06 01:45:01 UTC
Also, there's no time to check, or chat with the guy to figure out motives; by the time you chat he'll kill you, or escape. Your corp is green (in the overview), your allies are blue, and the enemy is red. You shoot at all the red, and you won't have time to check whether that's the veteran who really hates you and started the war, or some newbie they recruited who just happened to be in the wrong place. There's no time to check.

You shoot, hopefully you kill, and if it's the newbie then you just did him/her a favor by teaching some PVP tactics that they can try to figure out, emulate, or counter. Also, some adrenaline rush, maybe even some fun; maybe he had you pinned down with warp disruptors for a full minute before you managed to kill him and his team.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#20 - 2015-10-06 02:01:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
"Everything is relative." - Einstein

Good and evil in EVE are points of view; different sides of the same coin.

The winner gets to write the history books.
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