Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'd like to suggest a change to hopefully make the bounty system more worth while.

I suggest that the bounty system be changed to something similar to the contract system. The idea being that you can put a contact on a player, then a Bounty Hunter can come online, check the new bounties and decide if someone is worth hunting.

The idea is that you can configure how much you want to pay for someone's death as a percentage of the ship destroyed.

For an example, I want Jim dead. I offer a bounty of 30% of ship destroyed. Someone decides to hunt this bounty and stalks him in his shiny mission fit BS and kills a 3b battle ship. I then payout ~1b bounty. If someone kills him in a T1 hauler, I would pay a few million.

There would need to be a few other options. min payout and max payout. How many kills I would pay out for (you want to incentivize pod kills as well as ship kills.) Possibly a flat amount on top of the % could be possible.

Just an idea to make bounty hunting worth dedicating time to.

edit: For clarity, I'm in no way asking for anything to change with CONCORD. This is entirely designed to provide an interface for Players who want to hunt bounties as their profession.

We already have this in-game , it's handled entirely by players.
you could pay your local reputable mercenary outfits *cough* to go hunt Jim mercilessly and offer a bonus based off of the price of the kill.

I completely agree. This Bounty system kinda sucks. it was better before when you could claim it all from someone's podkill...
But, apparently they had to change it...
So, yes i think you're onto something. to make it like a contract base would be absolutely brilliant.
Maybe the bounty hunter has to accept the contract for any payment to apply.
(Though, this could cause a problem without any collateral... and collateral could be more of an issue.)
Ok, maybe accepting a kill/bounty contract isnt an easy option to figure out a system that would work, but its an idea.....

At the very least CCP should make it payout more than it does now. Talk about killing the spoilz of war.... lol

I kinda agree. it seems kinda like the idea already in motion, designed by players.
But there's nothing there to make someone pay for a bounty, if they've already hired Mercs. They've payed for 'Hired Services' and its then up to the Mercs to carry out the job for the WHOLE CORP or ALLIANCE.... But not really worth it for one or 2 people if its only Jim you wanted dead.
This may also require a new set of notifications.... One for Contractor, Hunter, and Target....
Maybe im not quite following the idea fully, but i do agree that it needs a change...

sounds abuseable with the use of alts.

To me it does not sound like the OP wants suicide ganking as a requisite to kill the target.

I still do not see any benefit in why people should be allowed to legally kill my ship without having illegally lost something to the bountied person before just by placing a bounty contract on my head. It is easy enough to exploit that by having several alts place several contracts on someone and activate them stacked so that you can prevent someone from doing something indefinitely. A wardec without having to declare a war, of sorts.

I only want to make sure. With the current focus of so many people on making High sec less secure and all that stuff, you cannot be wary enough.

Hi, i'm Jim's main. I just had Jim undock in an ibis and shot him with another alt. I only got 1 isk (my percentage cut of that one tritainium he had in cargo) to complete the contract, but the contract is complete. I'm not sure what Jim did to deserve the bounty contract, but it was easy enough to clear.

My other alt Jim-2 also had a bounty contract. Since I'm crazy filthy rich, I undocked Jim-2 in a freighter full of CFC carrier ratting loots. Even though thier carrier botting has driven the cost of guristas loots into the basement, the freighter had a lot of cargo space, so I had 6 billion in carrier botting loot plus I bought 20 plex back in 09 for 500 mil each and I threw them in there too, so the freighter total was 28 billion isk. The contract was for 50% of the ship value. The dude that put out the contract only had 450 mil available. CCP is trying to sort out who is going to pay me... It's going to be interesting.

Jim-3 is another alt on another account. To celebrate CCP's confusion of how to pay me for Jim-2 I had him (Jim-3) put an 80% bounty on every mission numpty in Apanake. The funny part is (giggle giggle) Jim-3 only has 8 isk to his name. I'm not sure whats gonna happen with that, but I did notice 80 marmites lined up on the station undock to collect fat rewards as the guys undock. Will they collect full 80% value via space isk magic or will marmites get to giggle gank 124 bears and split the 8 isk?


So, the morale of the story.... I can abuse the holy living hoo haw out of your idea because there are two too many variables controlled by players (that would be what I undock in and how much is in my wallet to pay out).


Here's the fix for all this. If you want the guy to feel some pain you can (1) war dec the guy and club him until you are out of breath, (2) hire some one else to club him for you, (3) suicide gank him until you can sleep soundly all through the night., (4) use the current bounty system.

The tools (and quite good ones) are in place.

This would be a great contract to add to the game, but the value of what you have to put in escrow can not be known at the time where you set up the contract, and I believe it would not be a good thing for the game to establish a contract without an escrow (What if you do not have the money available when the contract needs to be paid? this is a potential for abusing the system...)

Instead, why not set up a contract on a target player and indicate the minimum value of the ship destroyed you will pay a bounty for, indicating the payout upfront which will be put in escrow.

When a player gets a kill mail from that player that is above and beyond the value you set up, then they can accept the contract and complete it, and your payout is divided between all players involved in the kill mail, according to their percentage of damage done (ignoring NPC damage)

This way the contracts are visible to everyone until redeemed, and there is no possibility of abuse by anyone provided the value set by the person that started the contract is under the base value of the kill mail required by the one who started the contract (but as you can;t fix stupid, the contract system should allow the creator to enter the value they want...)