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Feodor Romanov
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#41 - 2015-10-01 19:51:00 UTC
Smells like T3D nerf team is forming... Common guys, do you really want to end T3D era so quickly?! Last year was like Manna from Heaven to low sec solo and small gang PVPers. When team will be formed, please, be polite, don't go to any compromises with your opponents in T3D discussion. Let us have more shiny months!
Stitch Kaneland
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#42 - 2015-10-01 19:55:05 UTC
Increase svipul sig or reduce speed and remove/nerf/reevaluate OGB. Fixes all the T3Ds and many other broken scenarios.

I have killed a lot of T3Ds and for the most part theyre all balanced except the svipul.

Confessor = cap dependent, hit it with neuts and it dies
Hecate = slow, cap dependent, biggish sig
Jackdaw = slow, big sig
Svipul = fast, small sig, scales incredibly well with links/implants, capless guns, 10mn fits with absurd active tank.. there is really not much weakness there. Unless you hit it with medium neuts.

Svipul cant have best of both worlds of low sig and high speed. I think the better route is increasing sig on it and a minor speed nerf.
Tim Nering
R3d Fire
#43 - 2015-10-01 20:06:00 UTC
i would like to take part. i love that this is over slack. i think t3ds need a lot of help in regard to their tradeoffs. making the swap more meaningful and needed to pilot these ships effectively.

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Virion Stoneshard
Spectre Fleet Ltd.
#44 - 2015-10-01 20:11:33 UTC
Well, that's good news! As much as I am a fan of the T3D's with their versatility and tactical choices, I do feel that they aren't quite where they should be.

I would very much like to offer my thoughts to the focus group. I am very fond of EFT warrioring, and have a solid understanding of the mechanics and math behind fittings. Not only that, but I have spent quite a large time in EVE in pvp, theorycrafting T3D fits for corporations, or for solo pvp. To give an example, an excerpt from when i proposed a golem fit for our incursion community:

Hope I can provide helpful thoughts :)

Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#45 - 2015-10-01 20:13:44 UTC
I'm not looking to apply, but I do want to voice my support for the initiative. I hope this works out well, and that we'll see more of these in the future for other areas of gameplay!
big miker
Scarcity Industries
#46 - 2015-10-01 20:39:36 UTC
WTB Battleship focus group Big smile
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#47 - 2015-10-01 20:48:18 UTC
im still surprised they released these after Fozzie saying they wouldn't release any T3's or even pirate bc's until they had fixed T3 cruisers.. a broken promise .. they still haven't fixed T3 cruisers yet.. and then they go and release these OP behemoths of the small ship world and obsolete everything around them that even vaguely do the same thing as them .. the hecate's ability too out dps most cruisers is so far past the line the line is now a dot too them.

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

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rhiload Feron-drake
#48 - 2015-10-01 20:56:05 UTC
hi! i would like to apply to the t3d focus group. i fly many t3d's in small gang pvp.
Avery Lewis
Boundary Experts
#49 - 2015-10-01 20:58:25 UTC
I'll throw my hat in the focus group application ring. I've flown Svipuls far more than any other ship in EVE, and have tried the other 3 T3Ds as well.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Rote Kapelle
#50 - 2015-10-01 21:03:10 UTC
I'd love to be part of this. I've mainly flown the svipul in High, FW and both NPC and sov null. I've used it in both brawling, kiting, and utility (for FC-ing anti-ganking fleets) cofigurations. I've also flown the confessor a bit, though not in compositions that it shines in. I consider myself a pro at not remembering to swap to defensive mode when scrammed.

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Ix Method
#51 - 2015-10-01 21:05:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Ix Method
Given how squarely T3Ds have dumped on AFs it would be a shame not to look at them together.

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Old and Petrified Syndication
TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
#52 - 2015-10-01 21:15:10 UTC
I am of the opinion that the T3 Destroyers should certainly be better than T2 Frigates - but not better than T2 Cruisers.
In general I've always seen the Destroyer as a frigate killer, so the T3 version being able to take on T2 AFs should be kept in mind.

In scenarios where pilots are of equal skill, the T3 should be able to defeat the AF.
In scenarios where pilots are of equal skill, the T2 Cruiser should pummel the T3 Destroyer.

That is my opinion. The question is: what was CCP's expectation for T3 Destroyer performance - especially in relation to the performance against other ships?

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#53 - 2015-10-01 21:31:07 UTC
Chiming in to say I'm impressed with this concept,
I'm curious as to how well this will work.
I'm not looking to participate in this one but I'm hopeful for other aspects of the game getting this treatment.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#54 - 2015-10-01 21:45:38 UTC
Chessur wrote:
I have flown many T3D's in solo / small gang / turny. I feel that I have a good grasp of PvP inside eve and could offer some thought provoking discussion. Please let me know if I can be of any help :)

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Alek Row
Silent Step
#55 - 2015-10-01 22:23:35 UTC
Interesting decision, please don't stop after t3d, it seems almost all ship classes and a few weapon systems could use a "focus group". Best of luck to all involved, hope you all do a good job :)

Svipul, If it is op, then sure nerf it, just don't over do it please.
It seems people wants to nerf svipul speed, I personally never liked the fact that svipul base speed is less than the confessor, could you please undo that, even if you nerf mass/mwd speed?
Also, aren't links the major issue in all of this?
Lucas Quaan
Blue Eyes and Exodia Toon Duelist Kingdom Duelers
#56 - 2015-10-01 22:35:46 UTC
Destoya wrote:
My tournament involvement also lends itself to working and communicating constructively with people who may hold different viewpoints, which I see as a very important trait to have for this focus group.

I see what you did there... :)
Zero.Four Holdings
#57 - 2015-10-01 23:01:26 UTC

Submitting my formal application to be part of this focus group. I like to think that I have quite a bit of PvP and PvE experience flying the t3d. I've flown the ship in a variety of settings, including large fleet, small gang and solo pew pew (elite try hard and not try hard).

Communication is part of my line of work, both streaming on on the High Drag podcast, and as a counselor. I can easily move to use slack.

This is a subject I've spent numerous hours discussing and brainstorming about on how to balance them, as I absolutely love these ships and feel as if I understand them in and out.


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Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2015-10-01 23:11:33 UTC
Submitting my application to the focus group. Though I've only flown Svipuls personally, i've flown them extensively and FCed large combined arms fleets with Test and Black Squad. I'm also really starting to get a feel for how much they're dominating the warzone with my recent move to faction warfare.

I also used to do game development, notably in rules and asset management, so I have a pretty decent background for it.
Sanders Schmittlaub
Bob's Watch
#59 - 2015-10-01 23:22:56 UTC
As someone who has both flown two of the four in both PvE and PvP (and killed a few too) and having actually built several hundred of them, I feel that I would be a benefit to the roundtable on the subject due to my involvement in T3Ds from birth to death (as it were).

Therefore I would like to formally apply to the focus group.
Order of the Red Kestrel
#60 - 2015-10-01 23:23:29 UTC
I would like to apply to this focus group.

I spend almost all my time in eve in PvP environments, and I'm especially knowledgeable when it comes to smaller ship classes like the Tactical Destroyers and Frigates, I would rate my knowledge of the small gang and solo meta as exceptional, and produce some very popular videos discussing the advantages/disadvantages of different ships in a class such as this Combat Interceptor Overview Video. I have flown the Svipul and Hecate quite recently, I also piloted the Confessor in the alliance Tournament, as well as spent a large amount of time practising and training in the Svipul and Confessor on singularity for the alliance tournament, so have a lot of experience in a small gang and solo setting with them all.

I have also taken part in many balance discussions on the tweetfleet slack, and here on the features and ideas forum, and would like to think of myself as a rationale person when it comes to such discussions.

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