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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#161 - 2015-10-08 02:34:40 UTC
It would literally just be another disincentive for "normal" highsec corps to use the war declaration mechanic. Wars by "normal" corps against their rivals are already exceedingly rare (largely because the ally system leaves them open to unilateral escalation from anyone, nearly instantly, for free).

It's not a change that would benefit anyone in any way.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#162 - 2015-10-08 04:25:59 UTC
Bads kill farming against worse bads in highsec. Learn to play the game of alts and never worry about wars again.

If you get decc'ed just switch characters for a week and laugh at them (on the decc'ed toon only of course).
Paul Pohl
blue media poetry
#163 - 2015-10-08 07:35:28 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Paul Pohl wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Paul Pohl wrote:
hi

I'd suggest that those corps involved in war should not have access to agents for PVE missions - the aggressors from the time of the dec and the defender from when the war starts


Dude, even I think that's a bad idea. It would just make people dec dodge more, or just not log in.

Yeah totally agree. Wardeccers are PvPers in general, not PvEers so removing their access to mission agents doesn't change their play one bit.

This would be a punitive measure against PvE based Corps, encouraging those characters to stay in or drop to an NPC Corp. probably not a great outcome.


supposedly they stay in or drop out to NPC corps anyway

and you assume that the PVE corps is the defender

The stats show that far more was are declared by pvp/wardec corps than by PvE corps. Not opinion or assumption. Thats just fact.

Not everyone drops to NPC Corps, but this would be a change that certainly punishes PvE Corps while not affecting PvP Corps at all.

What would be the benefit of this change? Maybe I'm just missing something obvious.


the principle benefit is that it cuts off a source of income to those involved in wars in high-sec - unless things have changed radically since last I played 'pvp corps' (we'll assume they are the attacker) spend their time running missions while waiting for the defender to come out of station

it would also focus corps on fighting the war
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#164 - 2015-10-08 11:09:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
Let's completely ignore that unless you are from bizarro world the highsec pvp community don't generally run missions at all.

Why would you want to remove a source of income for someone because they're at war? Exactly how would that improve gameplay for anyone?
Syeed Ameer Ali
Dirtbag Space Warriors Coming for yor Loots
#165 - 2015-10-08 12:42:58 UTC
Paul Pohl wrote:

the principle benefit is that it cuts off a source of income to those involved in wars in high-sec - unless things have changed radically since last I played 'pvp corps' (we'll assume they are the attacker) spend their time running missions while waiting for the defender to come out of station

it would also focus corps on fighting the war


Either the last time you played was way before my time and things have indeed changed, or you just don't know what you're talking about. People who declare wars tend to do so specifically because they don't have any interest in shooting NPCs. About once every six months I hold my nose and run a few missions on my scout alt in hopes of someday getting access to a reasonable number of locator agents, but it is excruciatingly boring for me and I can only stand to do it for an hour or two. Mission running is not a common activity for wardec corps.

Banning missions in war would only hurt the defenders in the vast majority of cases. While this might be funny for a little while due to the forum tears it would inspire, it would also give wardecced carebears one less reason to undock, which seems counterproductive.

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