EVE General Discussion

I do remember once when a supposedly 'leet' peeveepee outfit went round deccing obviously carebear happyclappy corps for cheap thrills. The CB corp couldn't afford a merc outfit and refused to disband or stop their picnic partys so decided to MTFU and fight back. The leet peeveepee brigade had their asses royally handed to them on a plate and ended up camped into a station. The CB's were so proud of themselves they upped and moved to lowsec.

Its a rare thing, but sometimes these things backfire spectacuarly and when they do the tears rain from the heavens in abundance.

Given how short of pew pew eve is these days, an active wardec with targets is probably the best recruitment incentive you could have.

I've only been back in EVE a week after a 5 year absence, and its sad to see everyone just wanting dev nerf hammer solutions to every nail.

These are the sort of players who complain that DayZ needs a food delivery service.

All players start in an NPC Corp and are immune from wardecs the moment they begin in the game.

If they move to a player Corp, it's up to the other players in that Corp to teach and support them. That's part of what makes Eve what it is.

It's just that Eve is full of poorly led Corps where the CEO doesn't know how to manage a wardec effectively, so the whole Corp suffers as a result.

That's not the fault of the mechanics or the wardeccers. If a Corp takes a new player under their wing, then they should train and help them. After all, they are receiving taxes from them.

By "add some strategy for merc corp ABC as well" you are really saying, place more restrictions on merc corps and reduce the need for strategic decisions of carebear corps (do they ever make any now?).

That's what a lot of change suggestions always boil down to underneath: reduce risk in highsec by restricting wars more and affecting the options of wardec corps.

No one ever proposes changes to increase the risk, not even the wardec Corp members that post here do. They just try to defend the status quo more than anything.

But changes to wardecs will hopefully come. There's lots that can be done. But that doesn't mean the balance of risk needs to change in the slightest. Highsec is already extremely safe. No need to make it more so.

Cant decide whether the devs refusal to put some effort into wardecs/highsec ganking makes them look bad or extra bad.

Wars are a corporation/alliance mechanic, to overhaul wars you need to overhaul Corp and Alliance mechanisms and that's a massive job.

Higsec ganking "issues" is in reality just you being a sissy , htfu and/or cop on and it ceases to be an issue.

Personally, I think the Increase of isk need to add wardecs on top of your current one is a good point, But also adding a limit would be a good thing, this will make people think, " Will i get more out of Corp ABC or Corp XYZ". Instead of being able to go down a list of corps and doing 10 - 20 wardecs at the same time.

There are people that like to mine and make money. Why shouldn't they be able to do that without having to PvP? The only way to be successful when PIRAT is making war decs on everyone is to fight back. So, your method requires people who *don't* want to PvP be forced to, my way allows them to have limited engagements if they don't **** someone off because my method limits how many people can be wardecced. I'm not saying no war decs at all, but the whole of hisec shouldn't be under war alert just because people don't want to go to lowsec to fight.

So we are supposed to force the people in hisec to fight but not force the people who want to war in hisec, to losec where these actions are permitted.

Your arguments are one-sided and you only apply your logic to the people you want to. Even if HiSec wars were entirely banned, there are still places to go for PvP content. That's where your logic falls apart.

Nobody has the right to engage in any activity free of interference from other players because everyone has the right to interact with other players however they want.

EVE is a single continuous sandbox, not multiple individual sandboxes.

This is literally the selling point of the game and it's core principle. Undermining it will only ever result in disaster.

No, no, NO.

Its COULDN'T care less, not COULD. That sentance means exactly the opposite of what you are trying to say.

"Could care less" means you care quite a lot (or at the very least care some), since you could care less than you currently do. "Couldn't care less" means that there is absolutely no way that you could care any less than you currently do, which is what you are trying to say.

Goddammit. I can tolerate you dropping letters in Aluminium, and maybe colour on a good day, but this, you don't get away with this.This is exactly the line on how much you are allowed to **** all over our language .

I fought back against a P I R A T "random" wardec once on one of my gank alts. After killing a couple of them they showed up the next day with 11 people including logistics and out of corp OGB to fight one character. I just left that character docked up and went about doing stuff in null on the other gank alts instead.

I could only imagine how much that would suck for a small time corp trying to find it's legs. Because fighting back against that is just a way to hand P I R A T some kill mails.