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Mining vs. Ganking

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Black Pedro
Mine.
#41 - 2015-09-25 14:03:16 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Its arguable which is worse, especially as both feel so goddam entitled to the same HS security which enables both of their activities.

Its a hypocrisy, and hence, a joke.
Or perhaps they are just making a political statement?

Sometimes the best way to get something fixed is to exploit the hell out of it.

Remember, the New Order doesn't make the rules for Eve, we are just good at using them to win.

Don't hate the player, hate the game. And remember it is just a game so try to have some fun.

But to the OP? Ganking. Neither is going to make you rich but at least one is actually playing the game, while the other is watching some counter creep ever upwards while you stare blankly at your screen.

The 8 Golden Rules of Eve

Why Do They Gank?
Crimson Nirnroots
Compliant Munitions
#42 - 2015-09-25 14:03:29 UTC
Well said, Jenn.

I enjoy Code. and their antics in the same way I can the Uruk-hai or Nazgul. I can like the antagonists without directly aligning myself with the Dark Lord.

I like to think they're my best customers.

Antimatter, now with more Nirnroots.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#43 - 2015-09-25 14:04:58 UTC
Crimson Nirnroots wrote:
Well said, Jenn.

I enjoy Code. and their antics in the same way I can the Uruk-hai or Nazgul. I can like the antagonists without directly aligning myself with the Dark Lord.

I like to think they're my best customers.


Oh, that's going into my bio lol.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2015-09-25 14:36:20 UTC
Maekchu wrote:
ISK and profitability is not that important. As long as you can buy the assets that you wish to buy, any excess ISK is just dead money, in terms of fun provided.

So instead of looking at what is more profitable, you should instead consider what is a more fun activity for you to do. Since enjoyment of an activity is subjective, that means that you will have to try both activities and figure out which one you enjoy more.

What is the point of grinding ISK, if you don't enjoy your EvE playing experience as a whole?
Figure out what makes you enjoy the game and what provides you with a reason to login based on enjoyment and not necessity.


I'd put income in the first place cause i need some funds to keep my fun going, otherwise i'm going back to rookie ships over and over again,.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2015-09-25 14:37:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiddle Jr
And i also thought that CODEdot is a joke since it's well made PR project of Goonie propaganda machine.

As well as i do belive mr J 3.15 is very successfull miner who run multiple mining bot alts which caused him to write his opus otherwise his brains would boil of mining boredome.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
#46 - 2015-09-25 15:01:01 UTC
La Rynx wrote:


only code respects code.

lol


We don't want your respect. All we want is your attention. And we have that.

Not attention in the "LOOK AT ME!" way. Attention in that we have a message and we want each and every person in Eve to hear it and, if possible for them, to understand it.

Highsec is too safe. There is too much reward for too little risk for the miners, missioners, haulers, etc that mindlessly sit or autopilot their way to riches. Every afking bot aspirant that thinks he can safely pay little to no attention to his ship while undocked in highsec thinks this because a not iinsignificant number of other players both believe it too AND insist that CCP make it so. Take for example the ongoing slaughter in Uedama. Yesterday we killed a freighter pilot who was a 2004 character whose freighter loss yesterday was his only zkillboard reported highsec loss. Think about that. 11 years in the game, all in an NPC corp btw, and he's autopiloting a freighter through Uedama. With a 1.7 billion ISK pod to boot.

I doubt he respects us now. I bet he did get our message.

I think the fact that you can hardly find anyone not mining in a Procurer or a Skiff anymore means the miners are getting the message too.

Highsec is worth fighting for.

By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.  www.minerbumping.com
Maekchu
Doomheim
#47 - 2015-09-25 15:08:43 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
ISK and profitability is not that important. As long as you can buy the assets that you wish to buy, any excess ISK is just dead money, in terms of fun provided.

So instead of looking at what is more profitable, you should instead consider what is a more fun activity for you to do. Since enjoyment of an activity is subjective, that means that you will have to try both activities and figure out which one you enjoy more.

What is the point of grinding ISK, if you don't enjoy your EvE playing experience as a whole?
Figure out what makes you enjoy the game and what provides you with a reason to login based on enjoyment and not necessity.


I'd put income in the first place cause i need some funds to keep my fun going, otherwise i'm going back to rookie ships over and over again,.

If that is your goal, then none of those are good activities. You should look for other activites, that can put you at a comfortable ISK level, after which you then can do what you enjoy.
Salvos Rhoska
#48 - 2015-09-25 17:02:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Black Pedro wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Its arguable which is worse, especially as both feel so goddam entitled to the same HS security which enables both of their activities.

Its a hypocrisy, and hence, a joke.
Or perhaps they are just making a political statement?

Sometimes the best way to get something fixed is to exploit the hell out of it.

Remember, the New Order doesn't make the rules for Eve, we are just good at using them to win.

Don't hate the player, hate the game. And remember it is just a game so try to have some fun.


Agreed.

But as I said, its essentially a hypocrisy, and at best, self-ironic satire, as they exploit the same HS security, as they "politically" accuse their prey of doing.

Having said that, minerbumping.com is absolute comedy gold with an EVE context.
The updates there alone justify their existance ingame.
I readily salute James315 and those who produce the content there, o7.
It was, and is, a fantastic idea and angle on meta.

The forum, however, is deep into the koolaid.
Reminds me of how Bronies thought it was funny at first, only to soon after realize to their abject horror that there are many creeps who actually swallow that ****. At that point you either leave, cos you dont want to lose what little faith you have left in humanity, or you egg them on just to see how far they will take it.

Furthermore, as in my previous post about the chemo sometimes killing you before the cancer, much of CODE agents are asshats who really should have left HS ages ago. Its one thing to have a HS gank alt aside from your main activities for a few laughs and miner tears, or even the occassional hauler pinata. Its quite another to actually participate fulltime in the same HS hypocrisy, and even worse if you actually believe in the creed.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
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