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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#21 - 2015-09-28 18:18:26 UTC
As per previous thread , still get them .

I found getting hammered and attacking battleships with a frigate helps to get the initial hebejebes out.

When you're balls deep with a ship you have no business even thinking about tackling , never mind killing and actually making progress you kinda pull your **** together just in case you manage to pull it off.

Hopefully you never truly shake them off though,
this is the only game that I have ever gotten them from and it keeps me coming back.

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Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2015-09-28 19:26:27 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
As per previous thread , still get them .

I found getting hammered and attacking battleships with a frigate helps to get the initial hebejebes out.

When you're balls deep with a ship you have no business even thinking about tackling , never mind killing and actually making progress you kinda pull your **** together just in case you manage to pull it off.

Hopefully you never truly shake them off though,
this is the only game that I have ever gotten them from and it keeps me coming back.


Wouldn't mind losing the shake as my mind goes completely blank. Last time I tried I lost all focus on ranges, my speed and having enemy drones on me (I was in a frigate) I panic'd even more and burned out my mwd to get out of range.
Austneal
Nero Fazione
#23 - 2015-09-29 22:18:55 UTC
Hochopepa wrote:
About 6 years ago, I had a 20 minute long ceptor dual at the EC-P8R gate. Closest thing to a dog fight I've ever encountered in EVE. It really was an instance of, first person to make a mistake is dead. After the fight, warped back to the gate, jumped into HI-Sec and walked away for an hour to cool off. That was an amazing experience lol.

A lot of awesome things have happened on that gate. I remember a guy by the name of Snot Shot who seemed to live there P
Marlin Spikes
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2015-10-03 17:05:49 UTC
I don't understand. What shakes?

Seriously, fly cheaper ships. Pvp more.

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Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2015-10-03 20:33:18 UTC
Marlin Spikes wrote:
I don't understand. What shakes?

Seriously, fly cheaper ships. Pvp more.


I have flown cheap ships. The shakes I refer to is my heart is pounding so hard that it becomes a distraction which inables me to focus. Fight or flight mechanic I guess, in which my brain naturally chooses flight.
Reah Darknorth
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2015-10-04 05:37:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Reah Darknorth
Practice makes perfect as they say. Also knowledge is power.

But also you gotta learn to not care. The fear of losing is one of the main reasons why people get the shakes and pounding heart. You need to focus your mind on not caring whether you live or die, but simply doing the best you can, doing the most efficient killing you possibly can. Ignore the possibility of loss. Still think rationally and strategically, but at the same time, have no fear and have no cares.

Also it helps to fly cheap but effective ships, because there's a lot more pressure to not lose if you're flying expensive boats; you can thank the killboard meta for that. I could go on a rant about killboards and the killboard attitude most players have, but that's a different issue so whatever.
Stalking Mantis
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#27 - 2015-10-04 11:09:11 UTC
With time. Your pvp will become more a reaction than an action. You will react in a fight as things develop in it.

A thousand losses each loss will teach you something, it could be you did not stay out of nuet range or a million other little things yu learn.

Either way the shakes as they are called usually stay, it is the 'freeze up' part that you lose as it all becomes more reaction.

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Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2015-10-04 12:47:48 UTC
Stalking Mantis wrote:

Either way the shakes as they are called usually stay, it is the 'freeze up' part that you lose as it all becomes more reaction.


Yeah, the freeze up part is what's killing me in pvp. I guess I just got to try someplace where solo pvp is more common and hope for the best. I have occasionally run into solo pvpers in Huola FW.

I just wish there were more pvp guides. I've found a bunch but most of them only cover the very basics.
Naoru Kozan
Perkone
Caldari State
#29 - 2015-10-04 17:00:04 UTC
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
Stalking Mantis wrote:

Either way the shakes as they are called usually stay, it is the 'freeze up' part that you lose as it all becomes more reaction.


Yeah, the freeze up part is what's killing me in pvp. I guess I just got to try someplace where solo pvp is more common and hope for the best. I have occasionally run into solo pvpers in Huola FW.

I just wish there were more pvp guides. I've found a bunch but most of them only cover the very basics.


Experience will get rid of the freezes.

Lack of pvp guides? Mate we are like living in the golden age of pvp guides with all the **** that is getting published on youtube.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2015-10-04 22:42:12 UTC
Naoru Kozan wrote:
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
Stalking Mantis wrote:

Either way the shakes as they are called usually stay, it is the 'freeze up' part that you lose as it all becomes more reaction.


Yeah, the freeze up part is what's killing me in pvp. I guess I just got to try someplace where solo pvp is more common and hope for the best. I have occasionally run into solo pvpers in Huola FW.

I just wish there were more pvp guides. I've found a bunch but most of them only cover the very basics.


Experience will get rid of the freezes.

Lack of pvp guides? Mate we are like living in the golden age of pvp guides with all the **** that is getting published on youtube.


And yet nobody explains what to do in certain situations.
Bobb Bobbington
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#31 - 2015-10-04 23:38:25 UTC
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
Naoru Kozan wrote:
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
Stalking Mantis wrote:

Either way the shakes as they are called usually stay, it is the 'freeze up' part that you lose as it all becomes more reaction.


Yeah, the freeze up part is what's killing me in pvp. I guess I just got to try someplace where solo pvp is more common and hope for the best. I have occasionally run into solo pvpers in Huola FW.

I just wish there were more pvp guides. I've found a bunch but most of them only cover the very basics.


Experience will get rid of the freezes.

Lack of pvp guides? Mate we are like living in the golden age of pvp guides with all the **** that is getting published on youtube.


And yet nobody explains what to do in certain situations.


There's so many situations though, they can't account for every one. That's when you have to actually practice and get the feel for how other ships are usually fit, how they're flown, etc.

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Iogrim
Matterhorn.
#32 - 2015-10-05 08:44:14 UTC
Same here, still getting mild shaking even after many solo fights. I assume that's mixture of something to lose, wanting perfection and after relatively long quiet time hunting to actually get the fight.

Note that it's only for 1-on-1, doesn't happen at all in fleets.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2015-10-06 21:11:20 UTC
Switch Savage wrote:
Can i suggest as well you fit 10 of these tormentors and go lose them all. I guarantee you will get a kill and you will shake off some of the heart pounding.

[Tormentor]
'Refuge' Adaptive Nano Plating I
F85 Peripheral Damage System I
Heat Sink II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer

1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Small Focused Beam Laser II,Aurora S
Small Focused Beam Laser II,Aurora S
Small Focused Beam Laser II,Aurora S

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Energy Burst Aerator I

Edit: Carry Gleam and Imp Navy Multifreq as well.


Tried it out and was nearly oneshotted 50% hull by a artillery Trasher, and later oneshotted by a Hecate alongside a Svipul.
Fit is aprox. 8 mil atm. Still trying it out.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#34 - 2015-10-06 21:37:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
SidtheKid100
Wilderness
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#35 - 2015-10-06 22:02:23 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Bad target selection.

I know someone that lost a 400m worm to that fit yesterday after he got lazy and scrammed on the warp in of a plex.



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Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2015-10-06 22:14:05 UTC
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
Switch Savage wrote:
Can i suggest as well you fit 10 of these tormentors and go lose them all. I guarantee you will get a kill and you will shake off some of the heart pounding.

[Tormentor]
'Refuge' Adaptive Nano Plating I
F85 Peripheral Damage System I
Heat Sink II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer

1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Small Focused Beam Laser II,Aurora S
Small Focused Beam Laser II,Aurora S
Small Focused Beam Laser II,Aurora S

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Energy Burst Aerator I

Edit: Carry Gleam and Imp Navy Multifreq as well.


Tried it out and was nearly oneshotted 50% hull by a artillery Trasher, and later oneshotted by a Hecate alongside a Svipul.
Fit is aprox. 8 mil atm. Still trying it out.



Hull tanked Tristan is also a good choice.

2x ion blasters, small nos, AB/web/scram, small ancillary repper, damage control, drone damage amp and 3x tranverse bulkhead rigs. Drones to taste, though hobs should be fine as tristan gets drone tracking (and velocity I think) bonus.

It is a nasty little ship that is effective at all ranges and has a strong tank for a T1 frigate. Would recommend as an alternative to the tormentor.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#37 - 2015-10-07 03:37:56 UTC
I have mixed feelings about amarrian ships lately.

I can even make a eurobeat version of "The capacitor is empty" every time I fly one.

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Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2015-10-07 20:18:09 UTC
What to do against Artillery Svipuls and other Tactical Destroyers? Is it possible to kill those in t1 frigates cause I am getting ultimatively owned by them atm...?
Nakito Kobara
Yamagata Syndicate
Northern Coalition.
#39 - 2015-10-07 20:44:55 UTC
10 years of Eve and still get an adrenalin rush in PvP. It has gotten slightly less over the years...

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Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#40 - 2015-10-07 21:50:37 UTC
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
What to do against Artillery Svipuls and other Tactical Destroyers? Is it possible to kill those in t1 frigates cause I am getting ultimatively owned by them atm...?


Arty svipuls? Survive initial alpha and get under guns? Scram web mandatory.

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