EVE General Discussion

I want to ask your guys opinions on something. In the space of 1 month, 2 frequent industrial players have rage-quit the game for reasons that boil down to what they describe as 'bad game mechanics' for industrialists.

So, my question is to you guys. What do you think of EVEs current climate for industrialists, regarding PvP. As both players were pushed to the brink of quitting because they lost a good portion of their assets.

Obviously, this (if it is an issue) is an important point to discuss. Because without industrialists, EVEs economy would struggle. Which spells bad news bears for the game.

(Please add constructive feedback)

Being constructive on something so vague isn't productive. Be more specific, because throwing a few buzzwords around and saying discuss at the end makes this seem like a troll.


Obviously it's not so obvious if you can't tell if it's an issue or not.

There is no other difficulty, challenge, or other adversity in your profession save what other players bring to you. Without that, industry would literally just be an income faucet.

Not only do I think that what you're describing is okay, I would argue that it's still too easy, given the obscene safety that the new Citadels will provide.

And if you think the game's economy would "suffer" without the kind of people who quit if they have even any potential opposition from other players, it just shows that you don't know a whole lot about this game's market. The beauty of capitalism is that, for essential and desired services, demand will always exist, and supply will always rise to meet the demand. Even if you quit because other people are allowed to shoot you in a PvP game, the next guy will just find his ventures more profitable as a result of your competition being removed.

You don't matter.

Obviously.

Is this thread about being ganked?

It has to be. I'll be it either involves bumping or hyperdunking.

Bad game mechanics now equal = "I lost something in an open world sanbox game known for it's ruthless killers".

Supposed to. This is the new "I could care less" I've noticed in the last few weeks.


Sorry, it's been bothering me more and more lately.

I would argue that the market is swinging back in favor of the industrialist as well. After the changes to invention, quantities of t2 items flooded the market, hindering profit. The far has since faded and we are starting to see a return to profitability for several t2 mods.

Seconding this.

Industry has become more interesting. Yes, there are a few more dynamics that go into determining build cost, but since that information is completely transparent and immediately available, it's not something that makes it more difficult — it just requires better planning and timing in what you bring to market when.

…and there are tools available to deal with that.


The current climate is pretty good. Ideally, there should be a lot more combat and large-scale destruction going on to provide a more lucrative market, but it's not exactly hard to cash in as it is. As for your two players, that sounds more like they flew what they couldn't afford to lose — a fundamental user error that has nothing to do with industry.

I suspect your friends loaded up too many eggs into their freight basket, autopiloted through a known hotbed of gankers, and got upset when they returned to their keyboards to find a fresh clone.

Which puts the climate for industrialists who actually pay attention into the "very good" category.