EVE General Discussion

Nearly 2/3 of players (64% +/-) have just 1 account.

86% of players have 2 or fewer accounts.

It's been consistent like that for the last decade.

The use of multiple accounts isn't as widespread in the player base as we often assume. It's only a relatively small percentage of us in the player base that have multiple accounts. We are probably the same people that post regularly in the forum, attend Fanfest, post on Reddit, etc. and are otherwise heavily invested in the game.

So it probably seems to us that everyone has multiple accounts, because the group of people that we all converse with regularly have multiple accounts. But there's a larger group of people who just play the game with one account.

Old enough to know not everything can be explained by one simple cause. Is player count low because PLEX is high as you assert, or is PLEX high because player count is low?

30% drop in players online this year alone can't be accounted for with the reduction in accounts of just a few players.

If you really believe people haven't left the game and it's only consolidation of accounts by <1% of players, then I'd like to see calculations in detail for that.

e. I don't personally see the drop in players online as important. I think it's a lot to do with longer skills queues, sov issues, etc. but those people are all still subscribed and playing skill queue online. I'm just stirring with the above since it's a common line of argument by people.

This is space communism man!!

The government (CCP) should give a break to the wealthy (PLEX buyers) so they can help support the poor (PLEX users). Flow of wealth from the state to the poors.

No thanks. We got rid of that stuff.

Do you think PVP activity (and dangerous PVE) would increase or decrease with lower plex prices?

I do not know enough to say one way or the other.

In game or out of game?

Aaron's proposal is to drop the RL price of PLEX by a couple of dollars so that supply to the market can be increased and people can PLEX their account and play easier.

Since people trying to PLEX their account, need ISK to afford the PLEX, the amount of anything dangerous isn't likely to increase, since any loss affects their ability to meet the ISK need.

I don't think Aaron's proposal will make any difference at all to the amount of PLEX purchased, or who purchases it. I don't believe that will increase supply on the market and won't create any deflationary pressure. It certainly won't increase the levels of risk people take.

Players habits don't seem to have changed in terms of pvp or pve as a result of the increase in PLEX price, so why would it change if the price went down again?

What we don't know though Aaron is what those decreasing numbers are, other than decreasing numbers of people logging in.

A large number of people could still be subbed, but not login as often currently, for a whole host of reasons.

There was someone a while back that made the observation that if things were so grim, don't you think CCP would be doing something drastic to address it?

People want security in their job no matter who they are. CCP just the same and I am sure the executive management and investors want security for the company too.

So if things are so bad, they would be doing things to address it immediately.

Yet still CCP's vision appears to be much longer term and they are progressing on the development plan at the pace outlined by CCP Seagull at Fanfest 2014, when we know at that time there were 480,000 odd active accounts (from the number of names on the monument).

It seems more likely that our view as players from outside the company is a bit narrow because we aren't in possession of the full facts that the company has about their current position and we speculate based on any bit of information we personally think is important and telling.

In addition, as much as I disagree with a lot of what Ripard says, he makes a good point in a current Reddit thread about a mass dump of PLEX onto the market:

http://puu.sh/kdZDL/b4b0a0836d.png

Prob is, we only know PCU, not actual account numbers, and that's what matters. The OP knows this, he couldn't shut me up by providing a source as I requested. May seem unfair, nothing to source, but you know what?!? I effect the PCU as well, lower time playing this past year compared to last year. But I still play, even though I don't push up the PCU by 1 each and every day, but enough. But then I don't need to be in x amount of hours, because I just pay cash for a sub, as I've always done. What if most people started just paying the sub cost? Likely lower PCU as people would not be compelled to grind massive hours for ISK to get PLEX. Oh gosh the EVE is Dying™ crowd would try to eat this forum alive trying to convince us everyone left hehe.

High price of PLEX is good for new players that would buy from CCP. So it won't be responsible for their declining numbers if they were declining.

Most likely the accounts that are lost due to high PLEX prices are alt accounts ( for the most part), which is not really a problem until it starts to effect the price of PLEX drastically, which there's no sign of presently.

So I don't really see the price of PLEX being an issue, except for maybe with the F2P crowd.

So what is this knock-on effect that you see so clearly?