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Alexis Goldberg

Doomheim

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#1 - 2015-09-16 02:09:53 UTC

Is it still possible to lock these ships? Is there any possibility to avoid both Bubbles and gates 100% of the time?

[Daredevil] (0,928s align, 45,5 sig )

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[Daredevil] ( 1,11s align || 31,1 sig )

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And the same for the Ares, but
1.16s align || 45.5 sig
1.38s align || 31.1 sig
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Demerius Xenocratus

The Scope

Gallente Federation

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#2 - 2015-09-16 03:01:42 UTC

Alexis Goldberg wrote:

Is it still possible to lock these ships? Is there any possibility to avoid both Bubbles and gates 100% of the time?

And the same for the Ares, but
1.16s align || 45.5 sig
1.38s align || 31.1 sig
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Would think that another frigate would have faster align time than Daredevil?

You can still be smartbombed - transporting PLEX in an untanked ship is a bad idea. Don't do it.

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Yang Aurilen State War Academy Caldari State Likes received: 1,475	#3 - 2015-09-16 03:34:59 UTC 3 That's a nice frigate you have there it'd be a shame if something happened to it... Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!

Mephiztopheleze

Laphroaig Inc.

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#4 - 2015-09-16 04:15:26 UTC

Ares, Mail Truck
Highs: who cares. A cloak if you like.
Mids: EM and Thermal passive hardeners, Medium Shield Extender.
Lows: 3x Inertial Stabilisers, 1x Expanded Cargohold (or a Damage Control if you like).
Rigs: 2x Cargo Optimisation.

>150m3 of cargo, <2s align, bubble immune, should survive a single smartbombing battleship.

Plan your route, use pings on gates in known smartbombing systems.

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Alexis Goldberg Doomheim Likes received: 0	#5 - 2015-09-16 10:28:51 UTC \| Edited by: Alexis Goldberg Does someone know exactly how server ticks work and how <1s align time is handled? And does sig radius affect Smartbomb damage?

Estella Osoka

Cranky Bitches Who PMS

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#6 - 2015-09-16 13:58:12 UTC

Mephiztopheleze wrote:

No. Insta-lockers can still catch it.

Nothing is 100% safe.


Alexis Goldberg Doomheim Likes received: 0	#7 - 2015-09-16 15:26:29 UTC How fast could some instalocker lock 32m sig radius?


Estella Osoka Cranky Bitches Who PMS Likes received: 1,148	#8 - 2015-09-16 16:58:43 UTC Alexis Goldberg wrote: How fast could some instalocker lock 32m sig radius? If the server ticks are in their favor? One second.


Alexis Goldberg Doomheim Likes received: 0	#9 - 2015-09-16 17:27:32 UTC Estella Osoka wrote: Alexis Goldberg wrote: How fast could some instalocker lock 32m sig radius? If the server ticks are in their favor? One second. But you warp off in the same tick


Estella Osoka Cranky Bitches Who PMS Likes received: 1,148	#10 - 2015-09-16 18:20:50 UTC Alexis Goldberg wrote: Estella Osoka wrote: Alexis Goldberg wrote: How fast could some instalocker lock 32m sig radius? If the server ticks are in their favor? One second. But you warp off in the same tick No, even if the align time is below 1 second, it will still be 1 second; because that is how the server calculates time.

Alexis Goldberg

Doomheim

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#11 - 2015-09-16 18:32:01 UTC

Estella Osoka wrote:

Alexis Goldberg wrote:

Estella Osoka wrote:

Alexis Goldberg wrote:

How fast could some instalocker lock 32m sig radius?

If the server ticks are in their favor? One second.

But you warp off in the same tick

No, even if the align time is below 1 second, it will still be 1 second; because that is how the server calculates time.

Technically afaik it still determines what process came first


Alexis Goldberg Doomheim Likes received: 0	#12 - 2015-09-16 18:48:46 UTC I wonder if Warp Core Stabs are reasonable, since most gatecamps only have disruptors, but no scram. 2-3x WCS makes one impossible to hold at place

Mephiztopheleze

Laphroaig Inc.

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#13 - 2015-09-17 02:13:06 UTC

Estella Osoka wrote:

No. Insta-lockers can still catch it.

Nothing is 100% safe.

Multi ReSeBo'd Instalockers have tried, many, many times to catch that fit and haven't succeeded yet. A couple of smatbombing battleships, on the other hand, will utterly wreck your day.

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Triakis Cadelanne Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation Likes received: 41	#14 - 2015-09-17 11:13:45 UTC Instalockers can't catch this at gates because it takes 1 server tick for the computers to notice you decloaked, and so by the time they start locking you're already in warp.


Estella Osoka Cranky Bitches Who PMS Likes received: 1,148	#15 - 2015-09-17 15:10:44 UTC All I'm saying is it is technically feasible to be caught. It just depends on which process the server picks up first in that tick.

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Val'Dore PlanetCorp InterStellar Likes received: 1,151	#16 - 2015-09-17 20:10:56 UTC EvE is always under time dilation. Just the magnitude changes when they have too much going on. What it means for us, is the game appears to be doing things instantly, but it never truly does. It's always in order and sometimes that means delayed. Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy. I invented Tiericide

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RavenPaine RaVeN Alliance Likes received: 1,340	#17 - 2015-09-18 15:24:45 UTC Would it be reasonable to think that: European players have an advantage over the rest of the world when it comes to time dilation/insta lock?


Estella Osoka Cranky Bitches Who PMS Likes received: 1,148	#18 - 2015-09-18 15:27:53 UTC RavenPaine wrote: Would it be reasonable to think that: European players have an advantage over the rest of the world when it comes to time dilation/insta lock? No, people with better service providers have the advantage.

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Paranoid Loyd Likes received: 10,020	#19 - 2015-09-18 15:31:35 UTC \| Edited by: Paranoid Loyd 1 Both are factors. "There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix Fix the Prospect!

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#20 - 2015-09-18 15:45:39 UTC

Alexis Goldberg wrote:

I wonder if Warp Core Stabs are reasonable, since most gatecamps only have disruptors, but no scram.

2-3x WCS makes one impossible to hold at place

dunno where you get that idea from, my keres for gatecamping was always fitted with 3 scams and 1 warp disruptor

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