Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Im torn. I like and agree with this Baltec post. The end is near.

That is literally one of the core concepts behind EVE. That's why it is a single shard open world game.

Seriously, why is this still even being discussed?

Adding special game mechanics for better enabling consensual 1v1 ship-to-ship combat is inherently imbalanced unless you also add special game mechanics for better enabling, quite literally, every other type of consensual and non-consensual combat and non-combat gameplay.

Want to fight a consensual 1v1? Battle Arena. Doesn't sound so bad, right?

Want to fight a consensual 5v5? Bigger Battle Arena. Getting a bit more complicated.

Want to fight a non-consensual 5v1? Bigger, Lopsided Battle Arena. Um, wait, what?

Want to hack a data site? Data Arena. Getting out of hand here.

Want to mine an ore anom? Mining Arena. Seriously?

Want to scam someone? Scamming Arena. Okay, I think you just broke EvE.



Or, you could just use existing game mechanics that apply equally to every single type of gameplay equally instead of breaking the game just so you can get lazy 1v1s.

You have the tools, you have the game mechanics. Use them just like everyone else does.

Who will defend null sovereignty then? Where will you get all the money needed to burn one ship every 5 minutes if you were "constantly at the arena"?

Corporation warfare, null sec roams and fleets, missions, mining, and low sec PvP will still exist. They will be reinforced, if anything.

There's a neat analogy here: "You have to allow all gameplay without SP because some characters have more SP than others." How is a decent criticism that features, which aren't requested, would be required because other features are implemented? The point is if a feature idea is helpful and plausibly only helpful.. Saying that those features are required is nothing very logical.. it's hamfisting some sort of design philosophy where there is no need.


Didn't feel like following that discussion?

It actually is a battlefield in space (and on planet surfaces, although that failed to some extend). You remember the "One Universe - One War" slogan? I am also very much in favor of more development towards more game content (missions, arcs, DEDs, cosmos, etc.) to further the lore, build on it, use it to create amazing content and activities (except for things like capsuleers should be able to contest and take NPC Null sec systems and turn them into player sov, that's just rubbish). Arenas, however, are not part of this development. So, instead of supporting this arena thread, you should probably support someone who is asking for more/new/rewritten/revamped COSMOS missions, as an example. But the decision is up to you.

You also do not need to play with other people the way they want. I play happily on my own with my alts, although I have altered and adjusted my activities and actions around my surroundings, I converse in certain channels, fly with a variety of people, loath other people, all voluntarily. What you need to learn as an EVE player is that you are not the center of the universe, the other players around you are an equally strong gravity well. Arrange yourself with them (standings, corps, alliances, lose groups, joined operations, etc.) and you can do whatever you want undisturbed, unbothered. What you need to braze yourself for, though, is that at some point you, your claims and your organization will be challenged (or not if it's too big to be felled. ), regardless whether you want to or not. Until then or beyond that time, depending on your personal skills and your power, you can have a blast of a time.

@Kenji Noguchi
You know what I mean.

What if the corp doesn't have enough for fleet v fleet? "Just find another fleet, then." What's to say they can't dox the WH? There are policing measures because they're helpful -- they're motivating. There can be "on-grid, fleet flagging" because it promotes gameplay initiation.

Thread, there's a whole level of life beyond making shoddy arguments on a forum thread. It's a decent suggestion stepping up those arguments to include studies and statistics .. and, overall, getting a decent control on the direction of a discussion for its clarity.

.....That's what I am suggesting. Start a thread to put together your own tournament.

Yet again, what's stopping you from doing this today?

Adding arenas doesn't improve gameplay. It gives people an easy way to get PvP without having to learn how to roam, how to find targets, and without giving people the risk of going up against someone in better/more powerful ships. They are inherently against the goals of EVE. Your idea does nothing but decrease opportunities for what EVE is intended to be: open world, non-consensual PvP.

Dror, how many tournaments have you tried to organize so far? How many people are in your in-game chat channel you use to organize those events? If the answer to those questions are both zero, you have no leg to stand on.

As with most of your threads, you don't quite seem to understand what game you are playing.

I'm 90% sure at this point you are just a troll.

Let me ask again. You seemed to have missed where I asked you two direct questions.

Dror, how many tournaments have you tried to organize so far? How many people are in your in-game chat channel you use to organize those events? If the answer to those questions are both zero, you have no leg to stand on.