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Response to DHB Wildcat - and you indeed are

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W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#21 - 2015-09-15 00:52:29 UTC  |  Edited by: W0lf Crendraven
Edit: not needed
Faife
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#22 - 2015-09-15 00:52:40 UTC
DHB WildCat wrote:
You know I made the post accepting my fate and was going to leave it at that. CCP Logibro asked me to make a ticket..... I wasnt going to. Like I said I just wanted to clear my conscious.

I have nothing left. No team, no ships (sold and turned into plex for good, plex..... thats why I took them). No friends from the teams.... been kicked out of every channel.

You know what though.... I feel good. I feel free.





I wasnt going to submit a ticket. However your 2 page personal attack changed my mind. So in my ticket I will be submitting our logs. A few emails I have that prove Garmon did indeed take my spot in that first match and that he did indeed back out honorably for me. Garmon I still love you man. Which will show that you have lied several times in your post and are just trying to discredit me.

TBH I cant blame you. I would be in full panic mode too.

I have nothing that can prove any specific pilots other than you...... it just proves that the leadership of both teams were in on it. So I leave it up to CCP.


This is the last you will hear of it from me.



Good Luck


apparently we can't post gifs here, but it'd be that one of the kids standing on the desks in that classroom
Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#23 - 2015-09-15 00:53:02 UTC
DHB WildCat wrote:
You know I made the post accepting my fate and was going to leave it at that. CCP Logibro asked me to make a ticket..... I wasnt going to. Like I said I just wanted to clear my conscious.

I have nothing left. No team, no ships (sold and turned into plex for good, plex..... thats why I took them). No friends from the teams.... been kicked out of every channel.

You know what though.... I feel good. I feel free.





I wasnt going to submit a ticket. However your 2 page personal attack changed my mind. So in my ticket I will be submitting our logs. A few emails I have that prove Garmon did indeed take my spot in that first match and that he did indeed back out honorably for me. Garmon I still love you man. Which will show that you have lied several times in your post and are just trying to discredit me. In fact, nothing would make me happier now than to help PL beat you.

TBH I cant blame you. I would be in full panic mode too.

I have nothing that can prove any specific pilots other than you...... it just proves that the leadership of both teams were in on it. So I leave it up to CCP.


This is the last you will hear of it from me.



Good Luck

Handled like one of our own. Respect.

This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
Faife
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#24 - 2015-09-15 00:53:46 UTC
W0lf Crendraven wrote:
Totally unrelated, kadesh comes over as a douche on forums an dhb sounds like a genuine nice guy.


*******'a right?

i don't even care if they cheated, i want them banned to get rid of the badposting on /r/eve
Cobat Marland
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#25 - 2015-09-15 00:56:14 UTC
Globby wrote:
the alliance tournament is a joke
Hendrick Tallardar
Doomheim
#26 - 2015-09-15 00:56:34 UTC
Liam Inkuras wrote:
Think of all the better things you could have used your time for rather than writing that response to spaceship drama llamas


Like watching Black Jesus
Mario Putzo
#27 - 2015-09-15 00:58:17 UTC
:front row seat:
Juan Directione
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2015-09-15 00:58:18 UTC
DHB WildCat wrote:
You know I made the post accepting my fate and was going to leave it at that. CCP Logibro asked me to make a ticket..... I wasnt going to. Like I said I just wanted to clear my conscious.

I have nothing left. No team, no ships (sold and turned into plex for good, plex..... thats why I took them). No friends from the teams.... been kicked out of every channel.

You know what though.... I feel good. I feel free.





I wasnt going to submit a ticket. However your 2 page personal attack changed my mind. So in my ticket I will be submitting our logs. A few emails I have that prove Garmon did indeed take my spot in that first match and that he did indeed back out honorably for me. It was wierd for me to learn he was banned for RMT.... honestly I didnt know that. Garmon I still love you man. Which will show that you have lied several times in your post and are just trying to discredit me.

TBH I cant blame you. I would be in full panic mode too.

I have nothing that can prove any specific pilots other than you...... it just proves that the leadership of both teams were in on it. So I leave it up to CCP.


This is the last you will hear of it from me.

TBH at this point now..... nothing would make me happier than to help PL beat you.


Good Luck

You are 2nd most honorable practitioner of e-bushido that I've ever met.

Stunt 'Samurai' Flores would be proud.
Schwa Nuts
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2015-09-15 00:58:36 UTC
Now I'm curious how the eve-bet people feel about all this. I know it is run by PL guys. Do they feel like they were cheated? Have they considered no longer taking bets on the Alliance Tournament? Did they know about any of this prior to the matches?
MissBolyai
ElitistOps
Deepwater Hooligans
#30 - 2015-09-15 00:58:53 UTC
DHB WildCat wrote:
You know I made the post accepting my fate and was going to leave it at that. CCP Logibro asked me to make a ticket..... I wasnt going to. Like I said I just wanted to clear my conscious.

I have nothing left. No team, no ships (sold and turned into plex for good, plex..... thats why I took them). No friends from the teams.... been kicked out of every channel.

You know what though.... I feel good. I feel free.





I wasnt going to submit a ticket. However your 2 page personal attack changed my mind. So in my ticket I will be submitting our logs. A few emails I have that prove Garmon did indeed take my spot in that first match and that he did indeed back out honorably for me. It was wierd for me to learn he was banned for RMT.... honestly I didnt know that. Garmon I still love you man. Which will show that you have lied several times in your post and are just trying to discredit me.

TBH I cant blame you. I would be in full panic mode too.

I have nothing that can prove any specific pilots other than you...... it just proves that the leadership of both teams were in on it. So I leave it up to CCP.


This is the last you will hear of it from me.

TBH at this point now..... nothing would make me happier than to help PL beat you.


Good Luck

Please apply in game.
Ohh Yeah
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#31 - 2015-09-15 00:59:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Ohh Yeah
Weren't DHB's logs all from Skype? I don't think CCP is going to accept Skype logs as any sort of evidence. He mentioned mails but I'm not exactly sure why you would send in-game mails that contained some proof that you were breaking the rules.

If this isn't a troll then props to Garmon for being a chill dude.
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2015-09-15 01:01:41 UTC
Ohh Yeah wrote:
Weren't DHB's logs all from Skype? I don't think CCP is going to accept Skype logs as any sort of evidence. He mentioned mails but I'm not exactly sure why you would send in-game mails that contained some proof that you were breaking the rules.

If this isn't a troll then props to Garmon for being a chill dude. I have always been a big homo Garmon fanboi, no troll


I think you would be surprised what CCP will accept as evidence these days.

Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal.

Creator of Burn Jita

Vile Rat: You're the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve.
Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#33 - 2015-09-15 01:02:00 UTC
Ohh Yeah wrote:
Weren't DHB's logs all from Skype? I don't think CCP is going to accept Skype logs as any sort of evidence. He mentioned mails but I'm not exactly sure why you would send in-game mails that contained some proof that you were breaking the rules.

If this isn't a troll then props to Garmon for being a chill dude. I have always been a big homo Garmon fanboi, no troll

If their handling of certain other incidents recently is any indication, they can and will. At least, if they want to maintain any semblance of consistency, they'd better.

This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
MissBolyai
ElitistOps
Deepwater Hooligans
#34 - 2015-09-15 01:02:27 UTC
All you're missing is a post from Camel confirming your story.
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2015-09-15 01:04:02 UTC
MissBolyai wrote:
All you're missing is a post from Camel confirming your story.


I doubt they want to dip a toe in this water.

Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal.

Creator of Burn Jita

Vile Rat: You're the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve.
Mr Rive
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#36 - 2015-09-15 01:08:12 UTC
DHB WildCat wrote:
You know I made the post accepting my fate and was going to leave it at that. CCP Logibro asked me to make a ticket..... I wasnt going to. Like I said I just wanted to clear my conscious.

I have nothing left. No team, no ships (sold and turned into plex for good, plex..... thats why I took them). No friends from the teams.... been kicked out of every channel.

You know what though.... I feel good. I feel free.





I wasnt going to submit a ticket. However your 2 page personal attack changed my mind. So in my ticket I will be submitting our logs. A few emails I have that prove Garmon did indeed take my spot in that first match and that he did indeed back out honorably for me. It was wierd for me to learn he was banned for RMT.... honestly I didnt know that. Garmon I still love you man. Which will show that you have lied several times in your post and are just trying to discredit me.

TBH I cant blame you. I would be in full panic mode too.

I have nothing that can prove any specific pilots other than you...... it just proves that the leadership of both teams were in on it. So I leave it up to CCP.


This is the last you will hear of it from me.

TBH at this point now..... nothing would make me happier than to help PL beat you.


Good Luck


Nothing like resorting to personal attacks when you can't disprove the claims someone makes is there?

if you're still around in a year, I'll find a place on an at team for you, it might not be PL, but ill help in any way I can. That is, if the logs are genuine, which I believe they are. I'm saying this because I think in part you did what you did in the spirit of sportsmanship, and no one gets to be thrown out of their family.
Hendrick Tallardar
Doomheim
#37 - 2015-09-15 01:08:14 UTC
Schwa Nuts wrote:
Now I'm curious how the eve-bet people feel about all this. I know it is run by PL guys. Do they feel like they were cheated? Have they considered no longer taking bets on the Alliance Tournament? Did they know about any of this prior to the matches?


They posted about their stance on it before the final weekend.

https://www.eve-bet.com/LatestNews.aspx?id=101
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#38 - 2015-09-15 01:09:22 UTC
Schwa Nuts wrote:
Now I'm curious how the eve-bet people feel about all this. I know it is run by PL guys. Do they feel like they were cheated? Have they considered no longer taking bets on the Alliance Tournament? Did they know about any of this prior to the matches?



They put out a memo at the beginning that matches would stand, even if cheating was involved, they aren't going to go back

The exact thing was linked in the first thread if you want to read it
Mr Rive
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#39 - 2015-09-15 01:11:38 UTC
Schwa Nuts wrote:
Now I'm curious how the eve-bet people feel about all this. I know it is run by PL guys. Do they feel like they were cheated? Have they considered no longer taking bets on the Alliance Tournament? Did they know about any of this prior to the matches?


They had their suspicions of course, but honestly, evebet will always toe the line with ccp because ccp is the official standpoint on rules. There is still no solid proof anything that happened was illegal.

That being said, im sure they knew when they called they would be taking bets there was a chance of match fixing going on. Anyone putting significant amount of isk on that match knew that was a possibility, and if they didnt, they dont deserve the isk.
Sgt Anti
Oblivion Watch
HYDRA RELOADED
#40 - 2015-09-15 01:12:17 UTC
You've made it clear that this is more about your potential substituion in a match than any collusion. Sending CCP logs about Garmon subbing for you? wtf? Kadesh is the one who was against it and insisted you fly despite other team members wanting Garmon to fly. Thanks for clarifying how much this is about your ego. Have fun RMTing and enjoy your time in PL.

Incase you're wondering, DHB left without voicing any of this to anyone, he did not seek to get any reconciliation of his feelings with anyone in warlords. All this talk of family, and what you have lost is you're own doing. No one asked you to go, no one said anything bad about you. Trying to make Warlords the bad guys and you the fallen samurai with honour is bullshit and you know it.