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Triakis Cadelanne
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-09-13 18:32:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Triakis Cadelanne
What's the point of flying a Zealot instead of a NOmen ?

DPS is higher but it's so slow ....
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2015-09-13 19:26:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
It's a fleet ship and a damn good one at that.

Think about having like 8 of them with logi and boost and itl start to make sense.

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Damnskippy
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2015-09-14 03:01:26 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
It's a fleet ship and a damn good one at that.

Think about having like 8 of them with logi and boost and itl start to make sense.


I flew one around solo years ago. Then a rifter survived the volleys, got under my guns and gave me plenty of time to think about the error of solo zealot... Cry

I haven't seen too many in space lately but I do remember when zealot fleets were a mainstay of many alliance doctrines.
Thea Arsoniztik
Banana-Republic.
Shadow Cartel
#4 - 2015-09-14 03:48:44 UTC
I used to fly them solo exclusively back when everybody used to rat in belts with ravens.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#5 - 2015-09-14 08:44:15 UTC
Damnskippy wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
It's a fleet ship and a damn good one at that.

Think about having like 8 of them with logi and boost and itl start to make sense.


I flew one around solo years ago. Then a rifter survived the volleys, got under my guns and gave me plenty of time to think about the error of solo zealot... Cry

I haven't seen too many in space lately but I do remember when zealot fleets were a mainstay of many alliance doctrines.

Yeah same thing happened to me with a rf firetale.

Yup armour hacs armour hacs armour hacs ,zealot in particular make fantastic doctrine ships...Actually I think I'm going to have to go buy one now.

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Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#6 - 2015-09-15 04:30:39 UTC
Maybe as doctrine ships with solid tanks and decent projection, but even then the DPS on a Zealot is anemic. In solo/small gang the Zealot is completely useless and outclassed by the Omen Navy.

It needs looking at IMO, find it a new niche of some kind.
Damnskippy
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-09-16 00:06:06 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Damnskippy wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
It's a fleet ship and a damn good one at that.

Think about having like 8 of them with logi and boost and itl start to make sense.


I flew one around solo years ago. Then a rifter survived the volleys, got under my guns and gave me plenty of time to think about the error of solo zealot... Cry

I haven't seen too many in space lately but I do remember when zealot fleets were a mainstay of many alliance doctrines.

Yeah same thing happened to me with a rf firetale.

Yup armour hacs armour hacs armour hacs ,zealot in particular make fantastic doctrine ships...Actually I think I'm going to have to go buy one now.


Did you know that hear in America ( 'MURICA! ) school teachers will actually correct your spelling if you attempt to spell such foreign words as honour , colour and perhaps even armour? So what I'm really trying to say is; it's not my fault. Lol
May Arethusa
Junction Systems
#8 - 2015-09-16 02:40:53 UTC
Quote:
hear in America



Quote:
honour , colour


Did you know that teachers in America are bad at their job? Neither did I until you chipped in.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#9 - 2015-09-16 04:21:33 UTC
May Arethusa wrote:
Quote:
hear in America



Quote:
honour , colour


Did you know that teachers in America are bad at their job? Neither did I until you chipped in.

Guys... why is there a scorch mark on the floor? Blink

How did you Veterans start?
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#10 - 2015-09-16 13:56:41 UTC
May Arethusa wrote:
Quote:
hear in America



Quote:
honour , colour


Did you know that teachers in America are bad at their job? Neither did I until you chipped in.


Ouch!
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#11 - 2015-09-16 14:46:44 UTC
Damnskippy wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Damnskippy wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
It's a fleet ship and a damn good one at that.

Think about having like 8 of them with logi and boost and itl start to make sense.


I flew one around solo years ago. Then a rifter survived the volleys, got under my guns and gave me plenty of time to think about the error of solo zealot... Cry

I haven't seen too many in space lately but I do remember when zealot fleets were a mainstay of many alliance doctrines.

Yeah same thing happened to me with a rf firetale.

Yup armour hacs armour hacs armour hacs ,zealot in particular make fantastic doctrine ships...Actually I think I'm going to have to go buy one now.


Did you know that hear in America ( 'MURICA! ) school teachers will actually correct your spelling if you attempt to spell such foreign words as honour , colour and perhaps even armour? So what I'm really trying to say is; it's not my fault. Lol

No dude, I wasn't haven a go at your spelling it's a reference.

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Laxen
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-09-16 20:28:56 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Damnskippy wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Damnskippy wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
It's a fleet ship and a damn good one at that.

Think about having like 8 of them with logi and boost and itl start to make sense.


I flew one around solo years ago. Then a rifter survived the volleys, got under my guns and gave me plenty of time to think about the error of solo zealot... Cry

I haven't seen too many in space lately but I do remember when zealot fleets were a mainstay of many alliance doctrines.

Yeah same thing happened to me with a rf firetale.

Yup armour hacs armour hacs armour hacs ,zealot in particular make fantastic doctrine ships...Actually I think I'm going to have to go buy one now.


Did you know that hear in America ( 'MURICA! ) school teachers will actually correct your spelling if you attempt to spell such foreign words as honour , colour and perhaps even armour? So what I'm really trying to say is; it's not my fault. Lol

No dude, I wasn't haven a go at your spelling it's a reference.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-kGGW0UlPA in all it's glory!
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#13 - 2015-09-16 20:33:26 UTC
Laxen wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Damnskippy wrote:


Did you know that hear in America ( 'MURICA! ) school teachers will actually correct your spelling if you attempt to spell such foreign words as honour , colour and perhaps even armour? So what I'm really trying to say is; it's not my fault. Lol

No dude, I wasn't haven a go at your spelling it's a reference.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-kGGW0UlPA in all it's glory!

hahaha, that's the oneBig smile

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#14 - 2015-09-16 21:54:36 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
It's a fleet ship and a damn good one at that.

Think about having like 8 of them with logi and boost and itl start to make sense.

One of you people would say that.
Damnskippy
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2015-09-17 02:25:23 UTC
May Arethusa wrote:
Quote:
hear in America



Quote:
honour , colour


Did you know that teachers in America are bad at their job? Neither did I until you chipped in.


Drunk grammar be best grammar yo. I'm not entirely sure what you're getting on about honour and colour though.

An I know you weren't teasing about my spelling. I just saw the word "armour" and thought I'd chime in with my shiptoast. Lol
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2015-09-17 05:36:21 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Damnskippy wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
It's a fleet ship and a damn good one at that.

Think about having like 8 of them with logi and boost and itl start to make sense.


I flew one around solo years ago. Then a rifter survived the volleys, got under my guns and gave me plenty of time to think about the error of solo zealot... Cry

I haven't seen too many in space lately but I do remember when zealot fleets were a mainstay of many alliance doctrines.

Yeah same thing happened to me with a rf firetale.

Yup armour hacs armour hacs armour hacs ,zealot in particular make fantastic doctrine ships...Actually I think I'm going to have to go buy one now.


They were outclassed by the kiting ishtar fleet and the tengu fleet... The damage projection is good, but not good enough to outshoot specialized kiting fleets. When the meta was more brawly, it was a solid ship for it's smaller sig against battleship guns.

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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#17 - 2015-09-18 15:34:09 UTC
I lost my first Zealot about 10 minutes after I fit it up :( Flew 2 jumps, took on a fight in a belt, couldn't get up to speed because belt rocks....

I also had one of my funnest fights in a Zealot: Out in open space, kiting, burning in, burning away, over heating everything, get a kill then burn back out. Great fight, and it was one of the learning fights where I started to master kiting.
Tomski Ruslav
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-09-19 00:15:09 UTC
Triakis Cadelanne wrote:
What's the point of flying a Zealot instead of a NOmen ?

DPS is higher but it's so slow ....

No reason to use a zealot in small gangs over the nomen. Nomen is fast, has a drone bay which means u can actually solo in it. Zealot really needs another mid for a web, or a small drone bay.

One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#19 - 2015-09-20 19:54:04 UTC
Tomski Ruslav wrote:
Triakis Cadelanne wrote:
What's the point of flying a Zealot instead of a NOmen ?

DPS is higher but it's so slow ....

No reason to use a zealot in small gangs over the nomen. Nomen is fast, has a drone bay which means u can actually solo in it. Zealot really needs another mid for a web, or a small drone bay.

Or another 9 or so fleetmates, it's not a small gang ship.

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Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#20 - 2015-09-21 07:35:29 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Tomski Ruslav wrote:
Triakis Cadelanne wrote:
What's the point of flying a Zealot instead of a NOmen ?

DPS is higher but it's so slow ....

No reason to use a zealot in small gangs over the nomen. Nomen is fast, has a drone bay which means u can actually solo in it. Zealot really needs another mid for a web, or a small drone bay.

Or another 9 or so fleetmates, it's not a small gang ship.


That's the thing though, it's no longer a fleet ship either. Zealot fleets are old school counters to BS fleets that couldn't track them when they were up close. Nowadays there are so many better options for heavy tanked small sig cruisers that the Zealot has fallen by the wayside. Sure you might see one here and there but it's suboptimal in any role you put it in IMO.
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