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AMBERSTOMUCH
Minmator Tribal Association L.L.C. Corp
#1 - 2015-09-13 17:14:20 UTC
Miners

Hello EVE,
Ever since I started playing EVE, there has been many ups and downs. Some would say more downs then ups but then I am a miner/ marketer by career. The numerous amounts of ships were a good idea and the overhaul on ideally superior ships to those in there similar class was another good idea but to other ships it was an outrage. An example is the Typhoon it was and still is one of the most extensively skilled ships in its category. My question is why? Why train all those skills needed to fly it properly to suddenly see the skills wasted for that ship. Another example removing cloak able warp drives on Covert ships like the Widow or the Panther (covert ships that in my opinion already under gunned). The turning of the Typhoon into missile ship was disheartening. Why one may say! Because the pilot who flew that ship (Typhoon) at that time would have just skilled for projectiles weapons! The upgrade now made that ship worthless and forced the pilot to learn missiles skills. I know this probably helped CCP in the extra pocket money but for the player that meant at least 2 more months (of real life) in training on a ship that already took months and months to fly.
Now on to the tears a pirate would call it. It’s what I call the miners *****. There is several to put it lightly, so I’ll begin with the most obvious. The miners’ ships! CCP upgrades have been nothing more than BS in my opinion. Allowing the mining ship to mine farther away using a leadership link was cool but then making the Asteroid belt farther apart defeated the purpose of the upgrade and to say CCP did it so the miner has a better chance of escape is BS as well MWD undoes that small distance of false security.
Anyway on with the tears! If by chance a veteran player has a Hulk mining ship with T2 shields, skills trained in shields and armor to a mastery V and another pilot in an Orca using a mind link to aid in areas mentioned. A 30 days disposable character can still destroy a T2 Hulk (1 billion ISK ship WTF). And before anyone starts their BS read on. The miner in EVE is the building block for the making of weapons, missiles and ammo the producer of all ships and structures in EVE and isn’t able or capable of making a better mining ship to with stand even a newbie. We get that we’re the gazelle or deer for the hunter in the game. But are hands are so tide and the belts provide such low profit that the replacement often leads to the end of that player career. The miner only can do so much with an exhumer. The Pirate can upgrade to a better ship, use better guns or get another disposable character to get the job done in killing a miner. The miner has no such options.
Buying better shields for an exhumer is just a waste of ISK’s more money for the producers; it does nothing for exhumers pilots. The private can purchase cloak warp able ships to surprise their intended victim. The miner can only point and hope. The miner has a frigate (a very small ship) that can cloak and warp so the technology is there but cannot exploit it for a bigger and faster mining ship to explore Null or Low Sec. systems. The frigates ore/ cargo hold is to small not enough room for even drones meaning cloak and wait or cloak and go. Without a cloak and warp able mining exhumer (medium size vessel) profits from mining in dangerous systems is a joke.
Here’s an idea for a mining ship one we already have. Allow the Orca to be modified as a new version so it can be the miner crown jewel at mining in Null-Low sec system covertly. Get the scientists busy adding 2 high slots for a Warp able cloak and a probe launcher with enough power and CPU to install the extended probe launcher so a miner can scan down those lost drones left behind to replenish his drone count lost in space against the ravaging space Rats. Add 1 medium slot so a miner can add the extra drone module to be use in its defense or for mining those Null-Low sec. ores. Drones are that ship only defense against those dangerous systems.
Now to take advantage of the only Capital mining ship so big that it has to stay in Null-Low sec the Mighty Rorqual. Granted it’s allowed inside a POS shield to operate and thank you for not nerfing that by the way, but how many miners out there want to train to use it just to find out they can’t because the ships needed to mine say ICE in Null-Low need a support team to fend off the Rats alone not to mention pirates and hostile Alliances just looking for POS to pop. Making it economically a bad investment for a miner to own/use! Yes the Rorqual has Jump Drive (thank the Empress) but it needs to be able to do more for the miner than make clones, which really should be able to make drones or mining gear like mining lasers or mining crystals instead. Yes that would mean keepings blue prints on board and separate cargo areas like one for fuel (has it), ore (has it), storage (has it), and mineral and Ice compression storage (needs it) holds. The ship is huge and beautiful for goodness sake and should be able to defend itself against rats and 30 day characters causing the pirate to work for his booty for a change.
(Wipes eyes) There it had to be said help the miner damn it…
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2015-09-13 17:18:24 UTC
Damn near broke my nose on that solid wall of text.

The paragraph and punctuation were important literary advancements, use them or no one will read this
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-09-13 17:24:24 UTC
9.5/10

Better than any trolling I have seen in a long time. Good work!

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.

Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#4 - 2015-09-13 17:29:46 UTC
I'll just point here:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6034839#post6034839

Except Ralph already got in first on the wall of text.
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2015-09-13 17:29:59 UTC
Ok.

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#6 - 2015-09-13 20:16:41 UTC
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