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Just killed Dagan with 2 days old pilot

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Forum Toon
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-09-06 01:32:03 UTC
In far past I played eve but biomass my pilots and closed that account.
Last night I got the urge to try EVE again and got 30 days trial + starter pack (extra 30 days + plex + 140 items).

At any rate focusing on Gallente and Gunnery I went to do SoE arc after I finished the 2 Military career agents and got my free catalyst.

Very low skills... some +1 implants nothing special...

Fit:

[Catalyst, Dagan Killer 1]
F85 Peripheral Damage System I
Small 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Magnetic Vortex Stabilizer

1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Small F-4a Ld-Sulfate Capacitor Charge Unit

Modal Light Electron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge S
Modal Light Electron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge S
Modal Light Electron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge S
Modal Light Electron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge S
Modal Light Electron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge S
Modal Light Electron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge S
Modal Light Electron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge S
Modal Light Electron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge S

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Nanobot Accelerator I
Small Targeting System Subcontroller I

the targeting rig was due to available stock in station.
Electron guns due to my horrendous fitting skills at the time.
Due to lack of slots for tanking and the fact my tank is based around armor rep I chose mid slot with a battery (couldn't use Cap Recharger yet) so I can squeeze some extra rep cycles before I need warp out.

Battle started by destroying quickly the frigates (his henchman) then Approaching Dagan at full speed using the AB.
once under 1KM I turn off the AB to preserve cap and nuke him with my 167 whooping ( :-D) dps constant fire.

First round I warped out when he was at 50% armor.
Second round I killed him.

very satisfying.

07
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2015-09-06 02:55:46 UTC
Gratz, glad to hear low skilled players can complete the arc solo.



DMC
Amber Starview
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-09-06 03:36:12 UTC
Very different thing a player with low skill points and a new eve player with low skill points ...

Segraina Skyblazer
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-09-06 03:59:12 UTC
CCP really needs to buff Dagan so that at minimum you'll need at least 6 mill SP to take him on solo.
Zihao
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-09-06 07:14:45 UTC
Amber Starview wrote:
Very different thing a player with low skill points and a new eve player with low skill points ...


I used a similar setup at a week old and this is my first time in EVE.

For what it's worth: You help us newbies a lot more by giving specific advice, like the OP, rather than opining that newbies are too stupid to emulate experienced players.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#6 - 2015-09-06 08:13:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Chainsaw Plankton
Zihao wrote:
Amber Starview wrote:
Very different thing a player with low skill points and a new eve player with low skill points ...


I used a similar setup at a week old and this is my first time in EVE.

For what it's worth: You help us newbies a lot more by giving specific advice, like the OP, rather than opining that newbies are too stupid to emulate experienced players.

sadly there are many that don't look for or accept advice. that said there are many things that are picked up along the way that new people might not think to ask about, and older players may not think to tell about. And things that mostly need to be learned by doing, watching help videos or reading about it in text just doesn't get it across, sometimes you just gotta go out and try it.

Plus some people just give awful advice.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#7 - 2015-09-06 11:28:21 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Zihao wrote:
Amber Starview wrote:
Very different thing a player with low skill points and a new eve player with low skill points ...


I used a similar setup at a week old and this is my first time in EVE.

For what it's worth: You help us newbies a lot more by giving specific advice, like the OP, rather than opining that newbies are too stupid to emulate experienced players.

sadly there are many that don't look for or accept advice. that said there are many things that are picked up along the way that new people might not think to ask about, and older players may not think to tell about. And things that mostly need to be learned by doing, watching help videos or reading about it in text just doesn't get it across, sometimes you just gotta go out and try it.

Plus some people just give awful advice.

Will gank for food

Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#8 - 2015-09-06 11:30:23 UTC
interestingly the forum won't let me post. something about html.

Will gank for food

Leila Meurtrier
Why Am I Not Surprised
#9 - 2015-09-06 12:19:08 UTC
Killing Dagan solo as a new char is not about flying friend ship, but about understanding means of getting the edge of dps. That includes glass cannon setup, using short-range weapon, faction ammo or, in case of coercer, ditching racial weapon system for something more adequate (8 autocannons or blasters instead of lasers).
Still, glad that you made it.
Forum Toon
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-09-06 12:20:11 UTC
I actually couldn't do it solo fully... I could but I was lazy...

there was one boss before Dagan (forgot the name) in Harbinger.
the thing is I could kill him but he used NOS to dry my cap.

I could go and refit with Railguns and snipe him but some nice fellow came with frigate to help me and together we burned him quickly before our cap went dry.
Zihao
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-09-06 15:37:11 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Zihao wrote:
Amber Starview wrote:
Very different thing a player with low skill points and a new eve player with low skill points ...


I used a similar setup at a week old and this is my first time in EVE.

For what it's worth: You help us newbies a lot more by giving specific advice, like the OP, rather than opining that newbies are too stupid to emulate experienced players.

sadly there are many that don't look for or accept advice. that said there are many things that are picked up along the way that new people might not think to ask about, and older players may not think to tell about. And things that mostly need to be learned by doing, watching help videos or reading about it in text just doesn't get it across, sometimes you just gotta go out and try it.

Plus some people just give awful advice.


You clearly missed my point.
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#12 - 2015-09-06 16:05:06 UTC
Zihao wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Zihao wrote:
Amber Starview wrote:
Very different thing a player with low skill points and a new eve player with low skill points ...


I used a similar setup at a week old and this is my first time in EVE.

For what it's worth: You help us newbies a lot more by giving specific advice, like the OP, rather than opining that newbies are too stupid to emulate experienced players.

sadly there are many that don't look for or accept advice. that said there are many things that are picked up along the way that new people might not think to ask about, and older players may not think to tell about. And things that mostly need to be learned by doing, watching help videos or reading about it in text just doesn't get it across, sometimes you just gotta go out and try it.

Plus some people just give awful advice.


You clearly missed my point.

Then why not try to clarify your point so that we can understand, instead of simply stating what is obvious to you.
Zihao
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2015-09-06 16:33:06 UTC
The point was, "oh those poor newbies wouldn't understand this," is not helpful. Was "opine," too hard to google or something?
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#14 - 2015-09-06 19:10:39 UTC
Tarojan wrote:
interestingly the forum won't let me post. something about html.


yea forums don't like characters like < > and /

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#15 - 2015-09-06 19:33:20 UTC
Zihao wrote:
You clearly missed my point.

I don't think I did. in most ways I agree with it. Many things can be learned, and I spend most of my time on the forums trying to help people out. There are still things that must be learned by playing the game. I could watch chessur's slicer video a 100 times, but chessur would still be a better slicer pilot.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Amber Starview
Doomheim
#16 - 2015-09-06 20:16:22 UTC
Zihao wrote:
Amber Starview wrote:
Very different thing a player with low skill points and a new eve player with low skill points ...


I used a similar setup at a week old and this is my first time in EVE.

For what it's worth: You help us newbies a lot more by giving specific advice, like the OP, rather than opining that newbies are too stupid to emulate experienced players.


Wow how did u come to that conclusion from what I wrote ? you trying to troll me is lame
Zihao
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2015-09-06 21:26:56 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Zihao wrote:
You clearly missed my point.

I don't think I did. in most ways I agree with it. Many things can be learned, and I spend most of my time on the forums trying to help people out. There are still things that must be learned by playing the game. I could watch chessur's slicer video a 100 times, but chessur would still be a better slicer pilot.


I'm glad we agree, and I certainly don't disagree that you learn by doing, but you learn what to do by observing others, as well as trial and error. Returning to my original point: there's nothing fruitful about the observation that a new player and a veteran player are two different types of player, particularly because the implication is that said new player can attempt to emulate, but will never succeed in doing so.

Amber Starview wrote:

Wow how did u come to that conclusion from what I wrote ? you trying to troll me is lame


I don't know how I'm trolling you. I just pointed out the OP put up some useful information and you derided it with a completely banal observation that helped nobody and only served to highlight your dim view of new players' abilities.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2015-09-06 23:20:45 UTC
Dagan is a relatively simple exercise is getting your DPS up. The ones that trick up new players are the neut guy mentioned above and a mission much earlier that webs and scrams and can kill players that get too close in ships with long range weapons,
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#19 - 2015-09-07 02:00:32 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Dagan is a relatively simple exercise is getting your DPS up. The ones that trick up new players are the neut guy mentioned above and a mission much earlier that webs and scrams and can kill players that get too close in ships with long range weapons,

damn rogue drones. I had gotten complacent by that mission and missed the fact there were a few strain frigs mixed in. had I known to shoot them first it would have been easy. didn't want that thrasher anyways P

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Forum Toon
Doomheim
#20 - 2015-09-07 02:08:03 UTC
the drones seems to orbit just in the sweet spot for short range weapons I 1-shot most of them on that mission never even noticed they use EWAR at all.
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