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Natural CloneKiller
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#1541 - 2017-06-04 15:54:21 UTC
Hire VMG this weekend. We are happy to put everything on the line for you. Let us hunt and kill your enemies.
tainted demon
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#1542 - 2017-06-04 17:36:02 UTC
Lung Butter wrote:
gnshadowninja wrote:
Seriously people, were not here to hand feed you every reason why we do what we do.

If you cannot look at the kill report, the actual objective and instantly work it out why then explaining it would probably be too confusing for you to comprehend.



I'm sure you had capable alts. KB defense it is.

Next question. Why caused your alliance to become terrible, yellow and dishonorable?


My capable alts are tied up in other things atm as are other VMG alts, also I'm asking some random forum alt, why do we need to use alts when we have mains?
The reason was to focus our efforts on the structure and cavemen, and not the groupies that come to our shows. The 1st and 2nd timer the defenders alone put up a good fight and have some numbers behind them. We have done a lot of citadel take downs and have seen 1st hand the tactics others use to get involved and honestly figured a lot more randoms would show up to this one with all the assists going in.

Next question. Why caused you to post with an alt? seems yellow to me, if you want a "safe space" holeysheet1 made one on reddit somewhere, i think he figured out what an echo chamber is, god help us all. Lol

What i love about all the hate we get is that we see these fights coming and give it a try, more often than not we don't just blue ball, ofc we also don't want to welp fleets... or try not to lol but its better to try and fail than not to try at all. As long as VMG keep going for it, I and other members will continue to fly with them.
The sad alternative would be to give up on HS log off or move on, join an NPC corp or join a marmite and get told to ship down or dock up all the time. It seems to be mainly those people who come back to backseat merc those who are still at it, by telling them what to do from an Non Participating Corp (NPC) behind a forum alt or whatever, but each to their own.

I think most ppl forget that VMG is not as old as they think, we reformed after FA(Forsaken Asylum) Fell Apart. there have been some speed bumps but compared to others who started up within that time we have accomplished a fair bit in a short time.
We are not immune from making mistakes or errors in judgment like anyone else but we do try to learn from it and move on better for it. Believe it or not we actually do care what WE think with what info WE have both before and after hindsight.
Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#1543 - 2017-06-04 20:24:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaely Tanniss
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Kaely, so what?

I call people out, then the only thing they do is go all personal.
If I had a penny for each time someone diffamated or told me to quit, I'd be a trillionaire at this point...

And quitting is for pansies, so no ty Roll



I mean quit whining..not the game. It's interesting you would assume I meant quit the game. Do you even listen to yourself? Have you taken the time to chill out then gone back and read your posts? Only a child thinks that they should just because they can..an adult knows that just because they can doesn't mean they should. This applies to opening one's mouth as well. We've all been guilty of saying things..where does it stop. Are you willing to alienate friends over a petty feud in a game? You are already walking that path. Who will trust you when it's obvious you will follow crowd. I've known you for years Dom..but after this display recently, I'm not sure I even want to know you. The same applies to some of the others who can't seem to get past petty differences and differentiate between rl and a game. By all means, continue your tirade..but be prepared to burn bridges and accept the consequences.

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#1544 - 2017-06-04 20:38:20 UTC
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
I've known you for years Dom..but after this display recently, I'm not sure I even want to know you.

as does it to you

the Kaely Tanniss I know is independent and strong.
not whatever you turned into...

I don't think I went to rl stuff with anyone in here... nor anywhere else for that matter.
it's a game, a lot of it includes people talking **** to you, and a lot of people hating you because you fly with X, Y or Z.
some of it involves having to deal with people going against what you stand for, or against an ingame deity you praise.

I've been with CODE. for over 2 and a half years (only in alliance for 4 months), so I know exactly what it feels like to have the world against you, even people you call friends. Many of those enemies have, with time, turned into RL friends, because they know EVE is just pixels. And I'm glad to have them as friends, just like I'm glad you're a friend out of game (like all the others, even if we don't talk much).

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

CCL Loyalist
Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#1545 - 2017-06-04 21:03:09 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
I've known you for years Dom..but after this display recently, I'm not sure I even want to know you.

as does it to you

the Kaely Tanniss I know is independent and strong.
not whatever you turned into...

I don't think I went to rl stuff with anyone in here... nor anywhere else for that matter.
it's a game, a lot of it includes people talking **** to you, and a lot of people hating you because you fly with X, Y or Z.
some of it involves having to deal with people going against what you stand for, or against an ingame deity you praise.

I've been with CODE. for over 2 and a half years (only in alliance for 4 months), so I know exactly what it feels like to have the world against you, even people you call friends. Many of those enemies have, with time, turned into RL friends, because they know EVE is just pixels. And I'm glad to have them as friends, just like I'm glad you're a friend out of game (like all the others, even if we don't talk much).


I've had deep ties with them for over 4..so I know all too well what it's like. I am about content and playing the game. When I was approached by a friend about joining VMG..at first I was a bit reserved. After all, they were the "enemy" for so long. I moved past the petty " my side is better than yours " mentality and agreed that I would need to talk with them on coms and see what kind of ppl they were. I wanted to see first hand what all the hate was about. To my surprise, it was nothing how I expected nor anything like the picture I had painted of them. Just like when you first came to CODE. You forget I was there and helped ease your acceptance along with our mutual onry friend. I never asked you to like VMG. But when do this ridiculous trolling, you are doing the very thing you are supposed to be against. This makes you a hypocrite of the worst kind.

I'm not telling you what to think..or who to like. But if you choose to make enemies because of your inability to keep your mouth shut when a friend asks you to tone it down..than so be it. But like I said, be prepared for the consequences that said friend/s can impose. The choice is yours. This is the last I will speak of it.



If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#1546 - 2017-06-05 03:26:05 UTC
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
I've known you for years Dom..but after this display recently, I'm not sure I even want to know you.

as does it to you

the Kaely Tanniss I know is independent and strong.
not whatever you turned into...

I don't think I went to rl stuff with anyone in here... nor anywhere else for that matter.
it's a game, a lot of it includes people talking **** to you, and a lot of people hating you because you fly with X, Y or Z.
some of it involves having to deal with people going against what you stand for, or against an ingame deity you praise.

I've been with CODE. for over 2 and a half years (only in alliance for 4 months), so I know exactly what it feels like to have the world against you, even people you call friends. Many of those enemies have, with time, turned into RL friends, because they know EVE is just pixels. And I'm glad to have them as friends, just like I'm glad you're a friend out of game (like all the others, even if we don't talk much).


I've had deep ties with them for over 4..so I know all too well what it's like. I am about content and playing the game. When I was approached by a friend about joining VMG..at first I was a bit reserved. After all, they were the "enemy" for so long. I moved past the petty " my side is better than yours " mentality and agreed that I would need to talk with them on coms and see what kind of ppl they were. I wanted to see first hand what all the hate was about. To my surprise, it was nothing how I expected nor anything like the picture I had painted of them. Just like when you first came to CODE. You forget I was there and helped ease your acceptance along with our mutual onry friend. I never asked you to like VMG. But when do this ridiculous trolling, you are doing the very thing you are supposed to be against. This makes you a hypocrite of the worst kind.

I'm not telling you what to think..or who to like. But if you choose to make enemies because of your inability to keep your mouth shut when a friend asks you to tone it down..than so be it. But like I said, be prepared for the consequences that said friend/s can impose. The choice is yours. This is the last I will speak of it.




Your call
If you want to destroy a long-standing rl friendship because I talk **** about the alliance you joined, so be it.
You should know better as far as I'm concerned...

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

CCL Loyalist
gnshadowninja
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1547 - 2017-06-05 04:50:49 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:

Your call
If you want to destroy a long-standing rl friendship because I talk **** about the alliance you joined, so be it.
You should know better as far as I'm concerned...


Its called respect Dom, something you clearly don't understand.

I don't know why you hate VMG so much, whether it's due to the circle you joined or if we upset you in the past but the fact is other then the trolling on the forums and the whining you post everywhere about us you don't really effect us.

Your the one picking trolling us over a friendship as far as I can see and trust me when the dust settles i'd of picked the friend any day
Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#1548 - 2017-06-05 06:18:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaely Tanniss
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
I've known you for years Dom..but after this display recently, I'm not sure I even want to know you.

as does it to you

the Kaely Tanniss I know is independent and strong.
not whatever you turned into...

I don't think I went to rl stuff with anyone in here... nor anywhere else for that matter.
it's a game, a lot of it includes people talking **** to you, and a lot of people hating you because you fly with X, Y or Z.
some of it involves having to deal with people going against what you stand for, or against an ingame deity you praise.

I've been with CODE. for over 2 and a half years (only in alliance for 4 months), so I know exactly what it feels like to have the world against you, even people you call friends. Many of those enemies have, with time, turned into RL friends, because they know EVE is just pixels. And I'm glad to have them as friends, just like I'm glad you're a friend out of game (like all the others, even if we don't talk much).


I've had deep ties with them for over 4..so I know all too well what it's like. I am about content and playing the game. When I was approached by a friend about joining VMG..at first I was a bit reserved. After all, they were the "enemy" for so long. I moved past the petty " my side is better than yours " mentality and agreed that I would need to talk with them on coms and see what kind of ppl they were. I wanted to see first hand what all the hate was about. To my surprise, it was nothing how I expected nor anything like the picture I had painted of them. Just like when you first came to CODE. You forget I was there and helped ease your acceptance along with our mutual onry friend. I never asked you to like VMG. But when do this ridiculous trolling, you are doing the very thing you are supposed to be against. This makes you a hypocrite of the worst kind.

I'm not telling you what to think..or who to like. But if you choose to make enemies because of your inability to keep your mouth shut when a friend asks you to tone it down..than so be it. But like I said, be prepared for the consequences that said friend/s can impose. The choice is yours. This is the last I will speak of it.




Your call
If you want to destroy a long-standing rl friendship because I talk **** about the alliance you joined, so be it.
You should know better as far as I'm concerned...


You're right, it is my call..as it is yours to stop. Stop and think what it is worth to you..then decide.

What part of what you are saying is an attack at me as well do you not understand? What part of you can have you opinions, but please keep them to yourself out of respect for a friend do you not comprehend? Is being accepted by like opinions worth al ienating a friend? Does it mean that much to you to have likes on a game forum? The only difference between you and some others at this point is you haven't called me a whore for joining VMG...yet. if you want to be blind, that's your problem. By your logic, it's not okay for carebears to judge you because you're CODE..but it's okay for you to do it because im VMG. If you really hate VMG that much, grow a pair and fight with actions, not petty salt.

I don't particularly like Marmite..but, I do like Tora, Murdoch, and other friends I have there. Out of respect for these friends, I limit my words to friendly banter or I keep my mouth shut because attacking them with vitriol as a whole is attacking my friends directly for their choice to be there. There are also other entities and groups I don't like..but do you hear me obsessing over it here? No, you don't. THIS is called respect. Respect for those I care about. Take a lesson.

What I've become you say? What I've become is sick of the petty bs from those who don't have the respect enough to keep from opening their mouths, the decency to respect a friend's choices, and the respect to honor their words whether you agree with them or not. If you had one ounce of respect.... You can have it your way Dom. I'm done.

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#1549 - 2017-06-05 09:40:30 UTC
gnshadowninja wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:

Your call
If you want to destroy a long-standing rl friendship because I talk **** about the alliance you joined, so be it.
You should know better as far as I'm concerned...


Its called respect Dom, something you clearly don't understand.

I don't know why you hate VMG so much, whether it's due to the circle you joined or if we upset you in the past but the fact is other then the trolling on the forums and the whining you post everywhere about us you don't really effect us.

Your the one picking trolling us over a friendship as far as I can see and trust me when the dust settles i'd of picked the friend any day

I'm not even going to bother lol
I'd rather waste my time elsewhere than to justify why I do what I do.

And Kae, you knew what you were getting into. You knew most of your friends hated VMG and still went with it.
So please stop playing the victim card, you're not fooling anyone that knows you enough..

o7

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

CCL Loyalist
Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#1550 - 2017-06-05 09:44:26 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
gnshadowninja wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:

Your call
If you want to destroy a long-standing rl friendship because I talk **** about the alliance you joined, so be it.
You should know better as far as I'm concerned...


Its called respect Dom, something you clearly don't understand.

I don't know why you hate VMG so much, whether it's due to the circle you joined or if we upset you in the past but the fact is other then the trolling on the forums and the whining you post everywhere about us you don't really effect us.

Your the one picking trolling us over a friendship as far as I can see and trust me when the dust settles i'd of picked the friend any day

I'm not even going to bother lol
I'd rather waste my time elsewhere than to justify why I do what I do.

And Kae, you knew what you were getting into. You knew most of your friends hated VMG and still went with it.
So please stop playing the victim card, you're not fooling anyone that knows you enough..

o7


Not the victim dear Dom..the aggressor. Either have the balls to fight what you claim to hate..or you are nothing more than what you claim others are for not fighting you...

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Griever Takkow
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming
BLACKFLAG.
#1551 - 2017-06-05 10:55:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Griever Takkow
I love all the tom foolery and forum bullshitery from the anti-VMG mob squad.

It’s a video game with fictional spaceships don’t ya know! In past times we have had many friends and ex VMG haters join our ranks with the far majority choosing to stay after soon realising it’s nothing like what the forum warrior’s and spin doctors say and preach on here and their own comms.

If people don’t like VMG then fight us in game Alliance vs Alliance if you feel that strongly about it many have some better than others, we won some we also lost some but it’s fun either way and again it’s what the game is about…. Loose all the political bullshitery and do something about it in game if you are that interested in our affairs… actions speak louder than words its getting rather silly now don’t ya think.

We are not immune to having our **** pushed in, it happens but you have to get back up and back in the fight.... not resort to forum poo flinging ... or you could just ship down to frigs and run Shocked some do!

Need a reputable MERC! Join "MERC Contracts" in-game for more details.

VMG Hire us today

> "Why do tomorrow what you can do today!"
Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
#1552 - 2017-06-05 13:31:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Razpataz
Griever Takkow wrote:
I love all the tom foolery and forum bullshitery from the anti-VMG mob squad.

It’s a video game with fictional spaceships don’t ya know! In past times we have had many friends and ex VMG haters join our ranks with the far majority choosing to stay after soon realising it’s nothing like what the forum warrior’s and spin doctors say and preach on here and their own comms.

If people don’t like VMG then fight us in game Alliance vs Alliance if you feel that strongly about it many have some better than others, we won some we also lost some but it’s fun either way and again it’s what the game is about…. Loose all the political bullshitery and do something about it in game if you are that interested in our affairs… actions speak louder than words its getting rather silly now don’t ya think.

We are not immune to having out **** pushed in, it happens but you have to get back up and back in the fight.... not resort to forum poo flinging ... or you could just ship down to frigs and run Shocked some do!

What do you classify me as, forum warrior or spin doctor? Roll

Hiding your logi in the crowd of neutral spectators is much more chickenshit move than shipping down to continue doing their thing imho.

Did Khrom find out who XXX was?
Still claiming BS? Or ignoring the elephant in the room? Blink
Fyi, the employer got back to me after my reveal and confirmed the payment to VMG.

I hate to **** on something I've used and told my clients to use (Merc Contracts channel) for years now.. But as long as there's proof that the only active Mod in there has scammed with other listed groups, the credibility of the whole channel is compromised. Sad
Natural CloneKiller
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#1553 - 2017-06-05 14:14:01 UTC
Need a citadel defending or taking down? Are you looking for protection services in high sec?

See our kb and the salty tears we create above for our reputation.

We bring the rain. Hire VMG.


Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#1554 - 2017-06-05 16:08:12 UTC
gnshadowninja wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:

Your call
If you want to destroy a long-standing rl friendship because I talk **** about the alliance you joined, so be it.
You should know better as far as I'm concerned...


Its called respect Dom, something you clearly don't understand.

I don't know why you hate VMG so much, whether it's due to the circle you joined or if we upset you in the past but the fact is other then the trolling on the forums and the whining you post everywhere about us you don't really effect us.

Your the one picking trolling us over a friendship as far as I can see and trust me when the dust settles i'd of picked the friend any day

We respect the player... Not the alliance they joined... They want to defend their alliance publicly but don't want drama.... Which is a contradiction.

I have respect for terminus wrex but I'm not busting him I'm busting the alliance he's in, taking everything personally that I'm directing towards your alliance is ********. And becoming the new Alliance forum warrior because you joined when we are arguing older issues then your join date makes you more likely to be caught up in said drama.

Go play the game, stop your drama and have fun.

MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!
Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#1555 - 2017-06-05 16:28:00 UTC
Saeger1737 wrote:
gnshadowninja wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:

Your call
If you want to destroy a long-standing rl friendship because I talk **** about the alliance you joined, so be it.
You should know better as far as I'm concerned...


Its called respect Dom, something you clearly don't understand.

I don't know why you hate VMG so much, whether it's due to the circle you joined or if we upset you in the past but the fact is other then the trolling on the forums and the whining you post everywhere about us you don't really effect us.

Your the one picking trolling us over a friendship as far as I can see and trust me when the dust settles i'd of picked the friend any day

We respect the player... Not the alliance they joined... They want to defend their alliance publicly but don't want drama.... Which is a contradiction.

I have respect for terminus wrex but I'm not busting him I'm busting the alliance he's in, taking everything personally that I'm directing towards your alliance is ********. And becoming the new Alliance forum warrior because you joined when we are arguing older issues then your join date makes you more likely to be caught up in said drama.

Go play the game, stop your drama and have fun.


I didn't make it personal. Need I remind you of who said what? I'm not defending VMG either. I'm simply stating new fact which I now know. I asked that out of respect for a friend that you tone it down. If you can't respect a friend enough to honor a simple request, what does that say about said friendship? I never asked you to like VMG.

What gets me the most isn't the fact you hate VMG or that you feel the need to express it. What gets me is that you couldn't honor a simple request nor could you or Dom step up to the plate and fight said hated alliance with actions rather than words.

Though I may not agree with them, I respect Devil's because they stepped up and put their money where their mouth is. Even Lew and I don't see eye to eye on this but it hasn't gone to the level it has with you and Dom.

You can call it what you like and spin it how you choose..but ve both know who took it where.

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#1556 - 2017-06-05 16:44:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Sol epoch
Beavis double standards again!

Go play the game, stop your drama and have fun.



Beavis you are >>>>>> https://media3.giphy.com/media/Pgy4Na8aRyBuE/giphy.gif
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#1557 - 2017-06-05 18:28:22 UTC
Quote:
Report: "J115327 - Love House" ownership has been transferred to Commonwealth Mercenaries
Now dont say we dont like you guys anymore. Blink

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#1558 - 2017-06-05 18:36:48 UTC
Lord Razpataz wrote:
Griever Takkow wrote:
I love all the tom foolery and forum bullshitery from the anti-VMG mob squad.

It’s a video game with fictional spaceships don’t ya know! In past times we have had many friends and ex VMG haters join our ranks with the far majority choosing to stay after soon realising it’s nothing like what the forum warrior’s and spin doctors say and preach on here and their own comms.

If people don’t like VMG then fight us in game Alliance vs Alliance if you feel that strongly about it many have some better than others, we won some we also lost some but it’s fun either way and again it’s what the game is about…. Loose all the political bullshitery and do something about it in game if you are that interested in our affairs… actions speak louder than words its getting rather silly now don’t ya think.

We are not immune to having out **** pushed in, it happens but you have to get back up and back in the fight.... not resort to forum poo flinging ... or you could just ship down to frigs and run Shocked some do!

What do you classify me as, forum warrior or spin doctor? Roll

Hiding your logi in the crowd of neutral spectators is much more chickenshit move than shipping down to continue doing their thing imho.

Did Khrom find out who XXX was?
Still claiming BS? Or ignoring the elephant in the room? Blink
Fyi, the employer got back to me after my reveal and confirmed the payment to VMG.

I hate to **** on something I've used and told my clients to use (Merc Contracts channel) for years now.. But as long as there's proof that the only active Mod in there has scammed with other listed groups, the credibility of the whole channel is compromised. Sad

to be fair, ignoring an elephant like this one takes some determination , im kinda impressed.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Natural CloneKiller
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#1559 - 2017-06-05 18:38:25 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Quote:
Report: "J115327 - Love House" ownership has been transferred to Commonwealth Mercenaries
Now dont say we dont like you guys anymore. Blink



That was funny both Khrom and i were laughing. Its the only kill on VMG you can get lol. Shows how much of a scrub alliance the termites are.

Enjoy the kill. lol
Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#1560 - 2017-06-05 21:09:21 UTC
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
Saeger1737 wrote:
gnshadowninja wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:

Your call
If you want to destroy a long-standing rl friendship because I talk **** about the alliance you joined, so be it.
You should know better as far as I'm concerned...


Its called respect Dom, something you clearly don't understand.

I don't know why you hate VMG so much, whether it's due to the circle you joined or if we upset you in the past but the fact is other then the trolling on the forums and the whining you post everywhere about us you don't really effect us.

Your the one picking trolling us over a friendship as far as I can see and trust me when the dust settles i'd of picked the friend any day

We respect the player... Not the alliance they joined... They want to defend their alliance publicly but don't want drama.... Which is a contradiction.

I have respect for terminus wrex but I'm not busting him I'm busting the alliance he's in, taking everything personally that I'm directing towards your alliance is ********. And becoming the new Alliance forum warrior because you joined when we are arguing older issues then your join date makes you more likely to be caught up in said drama.

Go play the game, stop your drama and have fun.


I didn't make it personal. Need I remind you of who said what? I'm not defending VMG either. I'm simply stating new fact which I now know. I asked that out of respect for a friend that you tone it down. If you can't respect a friend enough to honor a simple request, what does that say about said friendship? I never asked you to like VMG.

What gets me the most isn't the fact you hate VMG or that you feel the need to express it. What gets me is that you couldn't honor a simple request nor could you or Dom step up to the plate and fight said hated alliance with actions rather than words.

Though I may not agree with them, I respect Devil's because they stepped up and put their money where their mouth is. Even Lew and I don't see eye to eye on this but it hasn't gone to the level it has with you and Dom.

You can call it what you like and spin it how you choose..but ve both know who took it where.


Obviously your not understanding.... We've been hitting vmg way before you joined and shouldn't be made to "tone it down" based on your membership.... You brought this to the forums by calling us out in the stigmas of eve... Hence creating said drama. This meta is apart of the game now n days...either you play the game or you stay butthurt over everything we or anyone else says about your new alliance, which you are doing.

We can't have a conversation anymore based on loses, or logi used civilly anymore as you get anger that we even talk about vmg.

Natural and I could go out for beers as he's a good guy in real life, but I don't have to like what he does in the game or what his alliance does.... You think we've passed judgement on real life people, when we haven't. Your membership doesn't change our history, our views, and our personal knowledge of your new alliance...

Like I said before, drop your drama go play the game.

MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!