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What's with the obsession with highsec'ers!!
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Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-12-09 17:44:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr R4nd0m
Seriously what is up with you people, I personally am not a hiBlinkighsec person, mainly low sec and 0.0, but I just dont get it, why you low/null guys are so obsessed with how high sec players are, it's almost becoming like a witch hunt .

You play your game let them play theirs for god sake. Everyone in low, high, o.o exploit the game mechanics to fulfil their sandbox!
People who are obsessed with being able to shoot high sec ppl is because of 2 reasons, 1) you fail badly at pvp and can't shoot proper pvpers in low sec and nullsec 2) the game itself is lacking other ways to pvp. Go learn to pvp proper instead of trying to get lame easy kills!

If you want to complain, then blame ccp they develop the mechanics, ppl shouldn't be forced to go into low sec or null sec, however they should only have access to the very basic items. The prob is null sec is control wholly by blob alliances, normal ppl don't have a chance to make it in nullsec, so why go? Eve has become totally saturated, and some drastic and massive changes need to be made to the game before anyone will move out of highsec. The problem is tis one world scenario it's all good. But when the games is 8 years old and the old players and alliance s have a massive advantage over newer players, it's a serious problem.
For example

Recruitment is impossible now
You Can't live in nullsec unless you outrageous rental fees or become a pet
You will never ever own another expensive moon becusse the powerbloc alliances know where every single one is and defend it with massive numbers with theirs. Allies.
you can't live in nullsec because you just get your stuff blown up immediately
Alliances own every station, and even control thenpc regions, so they live in npc, but control the sov, and actually don't bother living in the region they own wtf!!!

Until ccp takes a serious look at the game, and make big game changes, and resolve the massive imbalance then ppl won't go anywhere, and I don't blame then
Handsome Hussein
#2 - 2011-12-09 17:45:53 UTC
Give me your stuff.

Leaves only the fresh scent of pine.
Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#3 - 2011-12-09 17:47:27 UTC
No get lost! I'm not an highseccer idiot
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#4 - 2011-12-09 17:49:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Crumplecorn
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People who are obsessed with being able to shoot high sec ppl is because of 2 reasons, 1) you fail badly at pvp and can't shoot proper papers in low sec and nullsec 2) the game itself is lacking other ways to pvp. Go learn to pvp proper instead of trying to get lame easy kills!
What's the obsession with high sec PvPers? Seriously what is up with you people, I am not a pvp person, mainly industry, so I just don't get it, why your obsessed, it's almost becoming like a witch hunt .

You play your game let them play theirs for god sake.

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#5 - 2011-12-09 17:52:19 UTC
Thank you for sharing.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#6 - 2011-12-09 17:53:07 UTC
Leave Brittany alone?

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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#7 - 2011-12-09 18:02:27 UTC
Cause you sure do have a purdy mouth.

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Goose99
#8 - 2011-12-09 18:11:14 UTC
Remove moon goo and put it into PI. All is well.
Titania Hrothgar
Nemesis Retribution
#9 - 2011-12-09 18:12:10 UTC
They come after high sec people because they lack the skills or courage to go after the gate campers in low sec. They claim there's no one to fight on low sec, but that's not true. They just simply don't have the stones to fight each other so they come into high sec and attack miners and call themselves awesome.

you can tell me I'm wrong and that low sec is absolutely deserted but I know better.

To all you low sec'ers who say you want a real challenging PvP fight.... you're lying if you're looking to high sec'ers. You want high sec'ers because you're afraid of a real fight.

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Pavel Bidermann
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-12-09 18:25:44 UTC
High sec ganking has been there all along. Its just advertised right now. Null has gotten so boring that they have nothing else to do. Null sec pilots seem to be grossly misinformed about high sec dwellers too since they think high sec is so easy. I'm thinking these pilots actually have little experience outside of the pvp game play they currently do. They can't seem to get their heads around the idea that people may play EVE differently than they do. They am afeered o anything they aint seen b'fore.

Null has gotten boring because its been split between 2 big monopolies that decided botting is more fun. They don't want any actual wars because they're too busy wallet stuffing, so they send their members to fight miners because thats fun. Sure it is. Soon enough the southern end of the map will be closed off and that would effectively end EVE since the bulk of the map will no longer be accessable unless you like servitude to the 2 blocks.

That's why they're killing miners.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#11 - 2011-12-09 18:39:35 UTC
are you guys in 0.0 also talking about something else as about highsec? i know its nice and all but 0.0 is ok too... isn't it?

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Duvida
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2011-12-09 18:54:19 UTC
So the 'crusade' against High Sec isn't so much inspired by High Sec action as much as forced by lack of options against Null Sec and Low Sec?

"There's just nothing else we can do, so we'll kill miners!"

Until some High Sec miners get a little more organized and better at turning the tables, that is... even the bots can participate as bait for anti-gank gank, right?
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-12-09 18:59:42 UTC
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Pavel Bidermann
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-12-09 19:03:09 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
are you guys in 0.0 also talking about something else as about highsec? i know its nice and all but 0.0 is ok too... isn't it?


0.0 can be okay. The demand that everybody has to go to 0.0 or they're crap is offensive. Thus the backlash. I would love to do stuff in 0.0. Having made the trip down there though I have to say it wasn't worth it at all. I'm not talking about isk either. I meam the game style wasn't worth it to me. It was the most boring thing I have ever done in EVE. Nothing comes close to how lame 0.0 was and that's just due to its population. Don't get me wrong. I met some really fun people in null and in low sec but the actual game styles were not to my liking. I would probably have never started EVE if I thought that was how 0.0 was. I think a lot of people, like me, keep playing because of what it could be though.
Solhild
Doomheim
#15 - 2011-12-09 19:05:55 UTC
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
No get lost! I'm not an highseccer idiot


I'm enjoying this thread Big smile
Pavel Bidermann
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2011-12-09 19:08:43 UTC
Duvida wrote:
So the 'crusade' against High Sec isn't so much inspired by High Sec action as much as forced by lack of options against Null Sec and Low Sec?

"There's just nothing else we can do, so we'll kill miners!"

Until some High Sec miners get a little more organized and better at turning the tables, that is... even the bots can participate as bait for anti-gank gank, right?


Well then you're just feeding the trolls. However, this "crusade" is no crusade at all. The ganking has always been active in high sec so make adjustments. The feeling of safety has always been an illusion that kills many people in high sec.

On the other hand, these gankers are really just throwing the towel in on null as well, they just don't think of it that way. Face it, they came to high sec for better game play than they had in null. They can wordsmith that anyway they like it, but the end result is the same. This does make them the ultimate carebears though. At least mission runners and even miners will brave the guns. Seems these guys are too afraid of that.
Proteus Maximus
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-12-09 19:11:18 UTC
Or. . . there are perfectly competent pvp pilots in highsec. Maybe some of them dont have the time for more than one account, witch is a necessity to operate & eek out a living in low sec.
How about some of us dont want the hilight of an epice null sec battle to be called primary and pop. You know. . after waiting sometimes hours to get siad fleet together. & for what really? no one of consequence planning is invading any one else. . Prove me wrong

So in closing op try not stereotyping everyone into your narrow minded vision of the game. It really just points out your ignorance.

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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#18 - 2011-12-09 19:13:23 UTC
I can't wait for the new alt space solution CCP is planning ... that will bring tears. Big smile

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Embrace My Hate
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2011-12-09 19:19:51 UTC
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Seriously what is up with you people, I am not an highsec person, mainly low sec and 0.0, so I just do get it, why your obsessed, it's almost becoming like a witch hunt .

You play your game let them play theirs for god sake. Everyone in low, high, o.o exploit the game mechanics to fulfil their sandbox!
People who are obsessed with being able to shoot high sec ppl is because of 2 reasons, 1) you fail badly at pvp and can't shoot proper papers in low sec and nullsec 2) the game itself is lacking other ways to pvp. Go learn to pvp proper instead of trying to get lame easy kills!

If you want to complain, then blame ccp they develop the mechanics, ppl shouldn't be forced to go into low sec or null sec, however they should only have access to the very basic items. The prob is null sec is control wholly by blob alliances, normal ppl don't have a chance to make it in nullsec, so why go? Eve has become totally saturated, and some drastic and massive changes need to be made to the game before anyone will move out of highsec. The problem is tis one world scenario it's all good. But when the games is 8 years old and the old players and alliance s have a massive advantage over newer players, it's a serious problem.
For example

Recruitment is impossible now
You Can't live in nullsec unless you outrageous rental fees or become a pet
You will never ever own another expensive moon becusse the powerbloc alliances know where every single one is and defend it with massive numbers with theirs. Allies.
you can't live in nullsec because you just get your stuff blown up immediately
Alliances own every station, and even control thenpc regions, so they live in npc, but control the sov, and actually don't bother living in the region they own wtf!!!

Until ccp takes a serious look at the game, and make big game changes, and resolve the massive imbalance then ppl won't go anywhere, and I don't blame then


You are a perfect example of everything wrong with this game. Nothing in EVE should be changed to accommodate lazy people. Every powerbloc alliance in this game started with 1 guy (or a few) who decided to (against all odds) take initiative and make things happen. It has taken several years of playing, developing contacts, learning, and fighting to get where they are let alone keep it from falling like a house of cards. CCP should not change ANYTHING to unjustly undo all the years of hard work the powerblocs put in just to appease idiots like yourself. Get over it.
Pavel Bidermann
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2011-12-09 19:25:23 UTC
Embrace My Hate wrote:
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Seriously what is up with you people, I am not an highsec person, mainly low sec and 0.0, so I just do get it, why your obsessed, it's almost becoming like a witch hunt .

You play your game let them play theirs for god sake. Everyone in low, high, o.o exploit the game mechanics to fulfil their sandbox!
People who are obsessed with being able to shoot high sec ppl is because of 2 reasons, 1) you fail badly at pvp and can't shoot proper papers in low sec and nullsec 2) the game itself is lacking other ways to pvp. Go learn to pvp proper instead of trying to get lame easy kills!

If you want to complain, then blame ccp they develop the mechanics, ppl shouldn't be forced to go into low sec or null sec, however they should only have access to the very basic items. The prob is null sec is control wholly by blob alliances, normal ppl don't have a chance to make it in nullsec, so why go? Eve has become totally saturated, and some drastic and massive changes need to be made to the game before anyone will move out of highsec. The problem is tis one world scenario it's all good. But when the games is 8 years old and the old players and alliance s have a massive advantage over newer players, it's a serious problem.
For example

Recruitment is impossible now
You Can't live in nullsec unless you outrageous rental fees or become a pet
You will never ever own another expensive moon becusse the powerbloc alliances know where every single one is and defend it with massive numbers with theirs. Allies.
you can't live in nullsec because you just get your stuff blown up immediately
Alliances own every station, and even control thenpc regions, so they live in npc, but control the sov, and actually don't bother living in the region they own wtf!!!

Until ccp takes a serious look at the game, and make big game changes, and resolve the massive imbalance then ppl won't go anywhere, and I don't blame then


You are a perfect example of everything wrong with this game. Nothing in EVE should be changed to accommodate lazy people. Every powerbloc alliance in this game started with 1 guy (or a few) who decided to (against all odds) take initiative and make things happen. It has taken several years of playing, developing contacts, learning, and fighting to get where they are let alone keep it from falling like a house of cards. CCP should not change ANYTHING to unjustly undo all the years of hard work the powerblocs put in just to appease idiots like yourself. Get over it.


It's also very helpful to have supercap blobs. The problem with your response is that this is no longer possible in EVE. Yes, they nerfed the supers but its too late. The sblobs are so large that the nerf isn't a game changer. You should have stated that "these alliances got as big as they are by agressively manipulating game exploits that they used enough RL money to gain access to". Does that sound a bit better?
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