EVE New Citizens Q&A

I find it odd that some people like things to progress at a snails pace.

I'm fairly sure it would be quicker to learn how to play something than actually train to use it.

Lack of options are created by the way the skill queue is setup and the amount of skills, it's also due to restrictions imposed by the player. Like not wanting to mine for instance.


Edit:

Also bearing in mind that the game will seem different depending upon how long your gaming sessions are. This is due to the skill queue being constant regardless how long you play for in a day (forgetting attributes as not looking at that). There's nothing wrong with that but, it is something to bear in mind.

And with this attitude you are limiting yourself more than the game ever will.
The low sec corp my son is in has many 1-3 month old players and they contribute in many ways. Ammo hauling is but one of them.
Tackle, scouts, webs / scrams, boosters, extra dps and yes even bait and many more.
SP is not what limits new players, creativity and a willingness to do what they can is what limits their play.


Wondering when if ever this will get through to you and others.
We like the skill training the way it is because it ELIMINATES the benefits of being able to spend countless hours grinding skills.

I play Planetside 2 as well since several of my friends like it (and hate EvE) and we enjoy gaming together. We all started PS 2 on the same day and at the exact same time they were all at my house for a game session. Because they are single and can and often do dedicate entire weekends to nothing but playing games their characters have more than triple the experience points and there for better in game items than mine does. You may say this is how it should be and if that is your opinion then you are not meant to play EvE.

Part of the reason CCP set up the skills training they way it is was to eliminate this grind based character skills advantage and it is for this very reason that many of us are resistant to changing it because we have lives away from computer games and we like the fac t that we are not disadvantaged in this game because we have those lives.

And yes CCP is fully aware that by not implementing a grind based skills system and several other things that are common to other games they are limiting their potential player base. And yes they have repeatedly stated over the years that they are comfortable with that situation. They have also stated repeatedly that they would rather stay true to their vision for EvE with a smaller player base than to compromise that vision simply to appeal to a larger player base.

So in the end it all comes back to the same thing.
A real time based skills training system is here to stay, if that does not suit your preferences or your playing style, or your idea of what a game should be then you are one of those players that CCP would rather do without.

I'm well aware that some like the skill tree. I actually like the skill tree too, although it's a little slow to start with but CCP is looking at that I believe.

I'm not interested in killing something a few hundred times either, have never liked that kind of progression.

= death to eve

It's already there, and it's called "character bazaar". If you want to skip the time to skill and have a enough ISK you can just buy a 100M SP char, and start whelping your Marauder or Carrier right away.

You can with the resculpt feature, but the name and history is preserved, though professional sellers keep their chars as clean as possible.

because plex for sp would ruin the plex market, ruin the character bazaar, characters have history and an idea that you have an infinate amount of skills and every character is different, plex for sp will mean focussed characters that have been coined to serve a purpose within an hour of playing the game, plex for sp gives instant maxed characters and that is bad

Plex market - Not sure it would ruin the market, it would alter it and some of the PLEX being stored would be used up.

Character bazaar - this depends on the cost of PLEX for sp compared with buying a character from the bazaar.

History - Doesn't matter, the history starts when you start playing it (unless from the character bazaar).

Character variations - Ok, on this one I agree, as you could potentially have instant class builds. Although you will get them eventually anyway (not instant).

Instance maxed character - could happen but it's unlikely there would be many. You could limit the amount that you could use within a given time period.

But it was interesting to see what you think.

Given the triviality of module items relative to the traditional mmo, it seems reasonable to say you can participate in comparable "end-game," activities faster in EVE with a reasonable time commitment because almost all of them are more team oriented and less dependent on individual skillpoints or modules being at their apex.