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I'd argue that I'm far more interesting than any NPC.

And so are most of the other characters around.

(Emphasis on 'most', not 'all')

I'm also better looking. Jamyl had a terrible sculpt (shame whoever made an Empress that plain and unattractive...), though granted Amarr characters are the most challenging to make pretty.

You need to get out more (in an ingame sense) Mr Vollhov!


The aim of the event was to kill her, not to allow players to fight or try and save her.

The outcome was pre-determined before it began and anyone there was merely a spectator.


Well to be honest I don't stay that closely tuned to the lore, even though I'm an RPer. Though even I had heard rumors that the Empress was set to be killed off weeks/months ago. It was no surprise to many people.


Again, I don't follow the lore that closely. Though one only needs look in IGS' recent pages to see a load of candidates mentioned, endorsed or discussed. From what I understand the position is not something that's always hereditary.

No sir, you are quite wrong.

I came here to live the lives of my characters each time I login.

To be those storybook characters.

That means a lot of roleplay and yes a lot of pvp because they are combat pilots.

It's my own characters and the vibrant lives they live that drive me, and give me my enjoyment in EVE. It's that PVP that produces the epic stories of their lives. And most importantly it's the interaction with other players' characters who bring those lives to .. well, life.

It's not the lore and it's not the NPCs. It's me and other players.


Welcome to the world of storytelling, movies, games and pretty much anything that involves fictional characters.

I don't need luck, sir.

I am The Banana.

To me it's sad though that some people need that context to give any kind of personality or view points to their characters. They can't formulate any kind of personality in a character without it - indeed they pretty much become little more than walking political opinions.

Strip away the lore framework and they're like mindless flotsam floating in the sea of New Eden.

I see it all the time when I try to engage some fellow RPers. They're stunned when my characters want to know what they did today, what they had for lunch or what hobbies they enjoy. They just want to argue about politics or play an emotional response to some current event and don't have a clue about their own character beyond a stance on an issue.

And here we have it in this thread a prime example of a couple of players giving up on the game/RP because that framework they needed to give their characters any kind of life has been altered slightly.

Wow ... people get some imagination.


+1000

Couldn't agree more.

XNo, he is not the norm. He is very unusual. I did not think I would ever be able to find such a person. [u]I dont like people in general[/u] and only see pervasive and consistent wisdom in the 10,000 things. The fools see the 10,000 things and think they are dumb, but the wise man sees the people and knows they are the dummies.

This excerpt explains a great deal, especially the underlined part, although it seems more likely you don't like people that don't care to jump aboard your personal bandwagon.

I suppose some people only feel engaged when they project the role of the oppressed and victimized upon themselves.

"Pay attention to me, because I am brave and fighting the good fight against impossible odds... because the vast majority of men think all women are whores and inferior in every meaningful way."

In reality, you know this isn't the case. Of course there are some warped and twisted men that feel that way, but that hardly means you can point to one and say he is representative of the majority of men.

The truth is that in most countries a man that insisted on expressing that belief would either be laughed out of the room, or would be the recipient of verbal (and quite possibly physical) harm for lumping our wives, mothers, daughters, and friends into that assessment.

But acknowledging that truth doesn't lend much substance to the personal crusade you appear to be on, so it is conveniently ignored.

Women of strength, wisdom, and character are encountered as often in our daily lives as men with the same attributes. Fortunately those men and women tend not to be as easily manipulated into making knee jerk generalizations (as you have repeatedly done in this thread)... which would seem to put them in the role of the "wise man" (irony) in your example above.

Or have we finally come around to the point of saying that stereotyping women is despicable, but stereotyping men is perfectly fine?

I think the key here Candi is you are living through your character, as many roleplayers do. I don't think I am my characters, I used to be, in other games. You obviously DO like to live through the character. That kind of roleplaying DOESN'T require a solid framework in the story and it can move easily around plotholes, it's really just playing dress up at that point. I don't roleplay like that anymore. I used to. I used to enjoy it! I don't anymore. My whole personality has changed since then. I will only roleplay if I feel like I can build a character into the story and find it believable. In other words, suggesting I roleplay loosely without involving the story and all of the characters I encounter sounds really boring to me.

Stig, I didn't say there isn't any RP in Eve, and I do not have a problem with characters being killed, I am a fan of Game of Thrones. It's just that I personally spent a lot of time building my characters around the world CCP had created, making them fit in carefully in a way that made sense and they are treating the story very glibly, it's no longer a believable story. They may as well had the hand of god come down and grab the empress and throw her to the Drifters and call it believable.

I felt especially that the whole cool plot with Max Singularity was just derailed, it was fun and it was the player's thing. You know? Without Jamyl there...it just feels stunted. That could have gone on for a long time as a plot but CCP just killed it. Max is nowhere near as controversial now with Jamyl dead, and the whole Providence invasion I felt would have been way more intense if CCP had played with the players instead of doing their own thing. We couldnt even RP that Imperium was looking for her body because CCP was so insistant on spoiling it, saying she was "Dead Dead" and not coming back and so on in their F***ing podcast "interview" . Just stupid. Stupid and thoughtless.

I cannot make these characters respond to a world story that makes no sense, and I think a lot of other serious story roleplayers feel the same way. I think the sandbox is suffering. It would be better for the NPC's to be stable, unchanging and mostly above the fray for all kinds of roleplayers than to treat the story so badly as if it was a show cancelled early in the middle of the story and had to have a rush ending applied to it.

That's the feeling I get and people are also confirming - for whatever reason, CCP wanted to get rid of the Empress as a character.They didnt do it to move the plot forward, they did it because they didnt like her. I also find it disturbing that spoilers were out before it happened. That's pretty poor management of leaks.

I am interested in characters that fit into a story, in a way that makes sense, not in living through my characters. I don't use Eve as an escape I use it as an exercise in building stories. The act of roleplay is a challenge for me these days, where in the past it would just be a place where I could wallow in an escape.

When the story doesn't make sense from the Gamemaster I will not roleplay with that Gamemaster. Their story sucks and they are being very callous about it.

I havn't logged in since then as the gameplay isn't that great either, it's the people on teamspeak that make it fun. The spaceships are pretty, and it's just a collection game for me at this point.

I wouldn't read too much into a tongue-in-cheek comment regarding the empress' sculpt.

I have over forty characters.

Though posting pseudo-IC comments everywhere I go is just one of the things I do. A little bit of meta.

It's fun and has no actual IC basis. Candi wouldn't know what you were talking about if you mentioned this thread to her.

Hey, being an evil character can be fun too!

My characters are generally all nice in their nature, though my main character is heavily psychotic. And that can be a ton of fun to play. She just finished evicting a corporation from their wormhole and warring with their alliance for over two months. Pretty much wrecked the whole group because one of it's members jilted her. I spent almost 30b undertaking that war for almost purely IC motivations (much to the rage and confusion of the victims since most of them weren't RPers).

Became one of the most awesome experiences I'd had in EVE, leading an IC vendetta. Lotta kills and an amazing story of a psychotic-woman scorned to tell later in IC blogs! The inner struggles the characters went through during it, the fights they won or lost, etc. Gold.

That's just an example of where my RP fun comes from. That's how I live their lives. Guiding what I do ingame by what the characters would do, and vice-versa by interpreting ingame events in an IC format for story telling.

Divide that into dozens of characters and you never run out of fun and variety. The way each acts and reacts is as individual as their appearance. To me when I RP the world here couldn't feel more real, because there's real consequences and actions in everything they do. Their lives are the centerpiece of my RP and tbh Lore rarely even comes into that beyond some background info. Ain't no Banana got time for storyline!

Everyone's a lil different though!

Your ignorance is astounding. She died for 2 reasons - 1 she has a sleeper consciousness cohabitating in her mind and 2 she appropriated sleeper tech to create the DUST soldiers. However it is likely that the rogue sleeper consciousness was the bigger issue.

Also Sansha Kuvakei is a sleeper consciousness at this time. In some w-space systems you can see busted up remnants of Sansha supercarriers with Drifters around the wrecks. This tells you two things. 1 The Drifters are attacking Sansha as well and 2 Sansha can manipulate wormholes enough to move super carriers in and out of W-space and those control systems are beyond what exists currently in W-space. Ok it also tells you a third - Sansha isn't losing the war - unlike the decadent Amarr Empire. This is evidenced by the fact that he can continue his Incursions across space while fighting the Drifters.

I'd like to say - while Jamyl Sarum has indeed been killed, it was by no means of a simple want to get rid of her. In fact, the entirety of the current story arc may hinge on her and what or who was in her head with her.

The "Other", as he is called in Templar One, is either the target of or the leader of the Drifters (personally, I lean towards the latter); if he is indeed the real one in charge, the Drifters killed Jamyl to get him back. It's my personal hope that the Other emerges as the Tyrannos head honcho, but with a catch - Jamyl Sarum becomes the voice in his head

We'll see what happens - and if you or anyone else is interested in the theory I've cooked up, I've made a document - I'll be making an organized post about it soon, but you can see it here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xvtRFQZT2mjPGL2rRWUHrl0B9ApTIG_cSupcDOrCIl8/edit?usp=sharing

Trust me, this wasn't a reason-less murder - things are only just getting started - just wait until the Drifter Incursions come back online and we'll see what happens