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The organization of the story isnt very good so were quitting RP

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The Golden Serpent
A Drunken Squirrels' Conspiracy for Revenge
#1 - 2015-08-27 14:01:18 UTC  |  Edited by: The Golden Serpent
The story in Eve is better than any other mmo ive seen, but, im really kind of shocked at how nonchalantly theyre treating this situation with the Empress being missing, the whereabouts of her body and all of that. I find it very disturbing to the point of it being sort of ridiculous to continue participating in something that is that loose ended. I cant believe theyre trying to sell us on this idea that one of the players has her body, I mean come on, that's just BS.


It also seems kind of silly that its CCP's only female lead. I mean there are a lot of sexist things about this game and I am aware there is only a handful of women who play for obvious reasons, I thought the Empress was CCP's token apology for being so sexist.

I signed up for the game because i liked the Empress, being unaware she's the only thing pro female about the game.

I brought my husband on board on the same Steam sale, my husband also liked the fact that there was a strong female lead, even given the problems some people have with Templar One, a book we both liked actually.

It felt to me that CCP wanted to kill off the Empress so they forced her into something against her character. Foolishly stepping into Safizon when all these Drifters incursions, for which there is no explanation. They seem very nonchalant about killing her on the podcast, and that was the thing that made me want to stop roleplaying in their story they dont seem to care about the players that were attached to her.

Maybe they just don't get it.


Neither of us have any idea why they would want to kill off the Empress, we cant even really imagine. The Emperors are supposed to live for hundreds of years, but instead they seem to be more interested in using her to advance the uprising of the Drifters, perhaps the Sleepers and so on. So she's almost like a chess piece or something instead of being really more of a serious component.

SO I just wanted to note that my husband and I wont be roleplaying anymore, here is a list of our characters, so you dont wonder where theyve gone or worry about finishing up stories with them:

Mine:

The Golden Serpent
m1thr0s
The Leopardess

His:

Akkad Akaya
Ravana 729
Berashith

Thanks to everyone who played with us.


There's a lot of things to do in Eve and unluckily I bought a year subscription the night before the Empress was killed for our third account (so we could train Ravana and Akkad separately), so not going anywhere just going to focus on other things besides the unbelievable storyline. If I had known where it was going I wouldnt have done that, but here I am I still have 6 months left on this account so ill continue until then at least, playing FW.

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Vollhov
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2015-08-27 14:57:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Vollhov
The Golden Serpent wrote:
The story in Eve is better than any other mmo ive seen, but, im really kind of shocked at how nonchalantly theyre treating this situation with the Empress being missing, the whereabouts of her body and all of that. I find it very disturbing to the point of it being sort of ridiculous to continue participating in something that is that loose ended. I cant believe theyre trying to sell us on this idea that one of the players has her body, I mean come on, that's just BS.


It also seems kind of silly that its CCP's only female lead. I mean there are a lot of sexist things about this game and I am aware there is only a handful of women who play for obvious reasons, I thought the Empress was CCP's token apology for being so sexist.

I signed up for the game because i liked the Empress, being unaware she's the only thing pro female about the game.

I brought my husband on board on the same Steam sale, my husband also liked the fact that there was a strong female lead, even given the problems some people have with Templar One, a book we both liked actually.

It felt to me that CCP wanted to kill off the Empress so they forced her into something against her character. Foolishly stepping into Safizon when all these Drifters incursions, for which there is no explanation. They seem very nonchalant about killing her on the podcast, and that was the thing that made me want to stop roleplaying in their story they dont seem to care about the players that were attached to her.

Maybe they just don't get it.


Neither of us have any idea why they would want to kill off the Empress, we cant even really imagine. The Emperors are supposed to live for hundreds of years, but instead they seem to be more interested in using her to advance the uprising of the Drifters, perhaps the Sleepers and so on. So she's almost like a chess piece or something instead of being really more of a serious component.

SO I just wanted to note that my husband and I wont be roleplaying anymore, here is a list of our characters, so you dont wonder where theyve gone or worry about finishing up stories with them:

Mine:

The Golden Serpent
m1thr0s
The Leopardess

His:

Akkad Akaya
Ravana 729
Berashith

Thanks to everyone who played with us.


There's a lot of things to do in Eve and unluckily I bought a year subscription the night before the Empress was killed for our third account (so we could train Ravana and Akkad separately), so not going anywhere just going to focus on other things besides the unbelievable storyline. If I had known where it was going I wouldnt have done that, but here I am I still have 6 months left on this account so ill continue until then at least, playing FW.


Implant Sleepers
The reason her death.
-6 subscriptions, Good job ccp AttentionAttention
Sorry for my English.Big smile

End of Time. I'm not fanatic, I'm just a servant by Her Majesty the Empress Jamyl Sarum I. It's time to leave this world to me. YC111 to YC117.12.10 20:00

Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
#3 - 2015-08-27 20:46:26 UTC
The Empress is not dead.. be prepared for her to come back I think :)
The Golden Serpent
A Drunken Squirrels' Conspiracy for Revenge
#4 - 2015-08-27 21:30:04 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Falcon
Buhhdust Princess wrote:
The Empress is not dead.. be prepared for her to come back I think :)



Yeah, that'd be cool...even if they had just let us imagine that, but the problem here is that CCP made an announcement in a podcast...the one that pissed me off, that "She is dead dead we are not bringing her back." That in itself is a spoiler..way to kill the Amarr rp community guys. It was as if they just wanted to get rid of her because of reasons. What are those reasons? Like I said I can't come up with any ***ing idea why they would kill off one of their most interesting characters when they have so little going on for them in the way of storyline, and SO many great roleplayers rallying around her, building their RP around the cool tension between Max and Jamyl.

I am the first person to abhor a us vs them mentality in a player/GM rp relationship but now I understand why everyone in Imperial Congregation was so upset about so many varied issues. This is abusive bull**** and obviously has been going on a long time according to the non newbies around here.

I have stories and worlds of my own to work on I am not going to deal with this **** I don't have time for it.

Itll be the same shenanigans with the heir, too, CCP has someone picked out and they'll "make sure" it gets into the storyline.

Vollhov wrote:
[quote=The Golden Serpent]

Implant Sleepers
The reason her death.
-6 subscriptions, Good job ccp AttentionAttention
Sorry for my English.Big smile



Well,that's three subscriptions here...not six... there was a lot of talk about unsubscribing in the Amarr OOC channel, but initially I was not thinking "Omfg they killed my fave character I will quit now" when it happened was actually looking forward to seeing if the story would develop into something interesting, as I am willing to trust storytelling...until it starts turning into something unbelievable.

I would have expected the story to make her to clone back and cause a huge split in the Empire, between a mix of two groups from Khanid, Sarum, Tash-Murkon, Kor-Azor and Ardishapur, Kador, now that would be interesting.

The only believable scenario irl is she committed suicide. They can say that it is not the case, but Amarr would know the capabilities of the Drifter weapons by then, they would know the dangers of going into a solar system that had been a warzone for a week, and saying it was just Amarrian arrogance is not believable in the slightest. (Not that any excuse has ever been offered for this mismanagement)

Then even before the assassination I expected something to come out that Jamyl Sarum was controlling the Drifters and using them against her own Navy because of a secret coup before believing she just undocked in Safizon and herp derped herself to death as CCP made her do.

That body would have gone through gates that scan it, and a huge search operation would be underway...it would be found, whether it was in a player's hangar or not.

And Vollhov I remember reading your OOC comment in IS, it's true....Eve's story is not an RR Martin tale where there are literally dozens of fantastic characters and twists, where killing one character means a new journey and where dozens of other interesting people take their place, Eve has a couple of interesting characters and the rest are underdeveloped or boring as hell. I am not referring to the players of course, who are often the makers of fantastic characters. It's been a pleasure working with the Amarr roleplayers. They deserve better than this sloppy half baked storyline. Nothing in this damned story makes any sense.


The whole storyline feels like a parody of the EU's Virgin/Whore complex times their collectivist obsession times 1 thousand, rather than a tale from the future of human evolution.

So now the only women npc's in the game with any fleshing out are space nurses, of course, of course...because when women get too powerful you have to cut them down unless they're disgusting altruistic ninnies who self sacrifice themselves to other people.

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maCH'EttE
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-08-27 22:58:32 UTC
canz i havez your stuffz, yourz and yourz husbandz?
The Golden Serpent
A Drunken Squirrels' Conspiracy for Revenge
#6 - 2015-08-27 23:13:12 UTC  |  Edited by: The Golden Serpent
maCH'EttE wrote:
canz i havez your stuffz, yourz and yourz husbandz?



yeah well im a newbie so its not much stuff and i have a year sub like i explained otherwise yes

maybe theyll give me a refund on all the money I spent then you can have all of it i wouldnt look back once

the more I think about this the more i am upset and angry

And my husband is terminally ill and on meds that make it so he cant do Eve very well so you can borrow him but only if you can play eve for him and type out what he wants his char to say.

edit: btw found out they killed Aura. CCP is on a Misogyny rampage. I would have NEVER learned to play without her.

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Lerner
#7 - 2015-08-28 01:54:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Lerner
The Golden Serpent wrote:
maCH'EttE wrote:
canz i havez your stuffz, yourz and yourz husbandz?



yeah well im a newbie so its not much stuff and i have a year sub like i explained otherwise yes

maybe theyll give me a refund on all the money I spent then you can have all of it i wouldnt look back once

the more I think about this the more i am upset and angry

And my husband is terminally ill and on meds that make it so he cant do Eve very well so you can borrow him but only if you can play eve for him and type out what he wants his char to say.

edit: btw found out they killed Aura. CCP is on a Misogyny rampage. I would have NEVER learned to play without her.



I say your wrong in most of your thinking. I do agree her final act was a sign of lazyness on the part of CCP. However with that said. I think Empress brought pride, honor, and last but not least a victory on the battlefield to which was sorely needed by Amarr Empire. Like Jamyl Joan of Arc lead france to a swath of victories and also brought pride back to france and the difference being she was captured and burned at the steak. as opposed to on the Battlefield unlike Jamyl. So I think you need to rethink your thinking.

Just some food for thought.. As a Caldari I was under the assumption The Amarrian's did not give up so easily.
Vollhov
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2015-08-28 03:27:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Vollhov
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Sweetie Roll
But alas, the CCP decided otherwise.

End of Time. I'm not fanatic, I'm just a servant by Her Majesty the Empress Jamyl Sarum I. It's time to leave this world to me. YC111 to YC117.12.10 20:00

Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#9 - 2015-08-28 04:00:19 UTC
Sorry, the Empress is fine. She's been in my Captain Quarters the whole time.

Time got away from us. Lol
Lerner
#10 - 2015-08-28 04:30:22 UTC
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
Sorry, the Empress is fine. She's been in my Captain Quarters the whole time.

Time got away from us. Lol


doing what? Cool
The Golden Serpent
A Drunken Squirrels' Conspiracy for Revenge
#11 - 2015-08-28 20:45:02 UTC  |  Edited by: The Golden Serpent
The more I think about this the angrier I get.


I had several meltdowns in chatrooms yesterday, including with an ISD and a CSM, both who listened patiently, and in all kinds of innapropriate chatrooms. I just could not let go of it. When it first happened I had no idea it would affect me so terribly, but the story just kept getting more and more unbelievable.


I went to Serpentis Prime which is a hotspot of griefing and blew up an impairor on station a dozen or more times to the bored people out there.

Then, I felt better, and when I logged into the game the next day I found out Alizebeth Amalath had made the Order of Jamyl Sarum and she invited my character to that, and I felt better some more.

I also decided that to get back at CCP all the Eve art I will ever do in the future will be Jamyl Sarum.

FOREVER


http://ningishzidda.deviantart.com/

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Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
#12 - 2015-08-28 21:02:39 UTC
Its a game!

If ur that annoyed, become a dirty pirate and enjoy ur EVE.
Vollhov
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2015-08-28 21:08:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Vollhov
Buhhdust Princess wrote:
Its a game!

If ur that annoyed, become a dirty pirate and enjoy ur EVE.


Why was this done?
Sake the championship?
Sake a new invasion, which broke?

End of Time. I'm not fanatic, I'm just a servant by Her Majesty the Empress Jamyl Sarum I. It's time to leave this world to me. YC111 to YC117.12.10 20:00

The Golden Serpent
A Drunken Squirrels' Conspiracy for Revenge
#14 - 2015-08-28 22:17:03 UTC
Buhhdust Princess wrote:
Its a game!

If ur that annoyed, become a dirty pirate and enjoy ur EVE.



Being a dirty pirate doesn't make me happy, I like RPing and hoarding things and PVP.

So right now I'm just hoarding things and doing hermit RP, that is, just in my own imagination not involving anyone else.

I don't want to play with these GM's in charge of the story arc they are insensitive and bad at their job.

-:¦:-•:'":•.-:¦:-•* K H A N I D •-:¦:-•:''''*:•-:¦:-

Bubu Mundi
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2015-08-29 02:37:26 UTC
This is minutely interesting. But I also don't care.
Lord Amaterasu
Aves Autem Obumbratio
#16 - 2015-08-29 02:42:28 UTC
Vollhov wrote:
Buhhdust Princess wrote:
Its a game!

If ur that annoyed, become a dirty pirate and enjoy ur EVE.


Why was this done?
Sake the championship?
Sake a new invasion, which broke?

Civil war?

Long live the Empress Catiz of Amarr!!

The Golden Serpent
A Drunken Squirrels' Conspiracy for Revenge
#17 - 2015-08-29 11:30:47 UTC
Bubu Mundi wrote:
This is minutely interesting. But I also don't care.



thanks that makes me feel better

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The Golden Serpent
A Drunken Squirrels' Conspiracy for Revenge
#18 - 2015-08-30 05:44:03 UTC
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I hate this situation worse than I did yesterday and I dont want to play anymore even let alone RP

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#19 - 2015-08-30 07:26:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
You must hate any story Joss Whedon has a hand in, he kills off main characters all the time. Smile

I've been a fan of many books, movies, etc. that upset me a bit when they killed off a character I was particularly fond of (Wash, you're still my wingman) but in most cases didn't make me stop following the story, let alone cause a major disruption in my leisure activities.

Perhaps taking a step back and a deep breath would be in order. Obsessing over something like this is bad for you, and while I don't know you personally it concerns me a bit to see you so stressed out.

I don't have much patience with playing the "it's because she was a strong woman" card though. I seriously doubt her fictional sex had anything to do with her death, and had everything to do with other elements in her back story... elements of which I am sure you are fully aware.

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The Golden Serpent
A Drunken Squirrels' Conspiracy for Revenge
#20 - 2015-08-30 08:46:46 UTC  |  Edited by: The Golden Serpent
Like I said before it's not that she was killed that upset me, it was the way it was done, and the aftermath, and the disassociative comments of the CCP staff, not caring about how the players felt and the weird reverse-spoiler guaranteeing us they would not bring her back which disallowed us from playing out certain threads and so on.(Example Max looking for her clone body in Providence, which they seemed to not give a **** about) Their reasons for the plot seemed drawn from purely OOC sources and contrived as hell. I cannot ****ing roleplay around that kind of ****y storytelling it makes no sense at all.

I'm a big fan of Game of Thrones and I don't know who Joss Whedon is. Anyways screenplays are a different medium than an interactive storyline. This is about the plot as a whole and the believability of the world, and it just isn't there. It's like they're just adlibbing based on OOC opinions, and doing improv theatre based on OOC opinions. That's why it sucks.

Of course you don't agree with the strong woman theory because you're a guy, and you're not painfully area of how much this subconscious activity permeates our culture, and it's even more deeply rooted in Europe, and the women are just pawns of the systematic character assasination of women to be the stereotype of the virgin/whore and the evil Eve, who isn't real in anywhere but their ****ed up imaginations.

If they were remotely in touch with their fanbase they would realize that even nonroleplayers were into the Empress as a character even if they were playing factions opposed to her, and all of the guys I talked to on comms in different corps loved Templar One.

Anyways im never going to be able to play this game without experiencing this pure ****ing hatred so you know, ****it.

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