EVE General Discussion

One possibility I've been thinking about is maybe lowering the "security status" of every large fleet so they have reduced access to high sec.

I would think that Concord would feel threatened by them. Since they are basically player controlled versions of Concord.

It stands to reason that any sufficiently large player controlled operation would begin to have a big enough impact on NPC politics that it attracts the attention of the major factions, and those factions would either ally with it, or oppose it. Sure Goonswarm is as much a "pirate faction" as say.... Mordu's Legion.


That's the kind of stuff I'd like to hear on this thread. Proposals. Ideas. (I know there is no reason to expect CCP will llisten to us, but it's fun to brainstorm anyway.) ((Or brain fart, as the case may be...))

Remove the tracking penalty.

If you can figure out how to make any social animal (including humans) not form large groups for protection and defense let me know, and the whole world while you are at it. People bring the blob because they want to win. You can't "fix" human nature with game mechanics.

Your definition of small and mine vary considerably. Most LA gangs number more than the entire CFC each.

In the town I grew up in there was a gang of six bikers. That's a small gang. In the big American cities you are looking at gangs with membership in the thousands.

Mr Epeen

Good point.

So a better question is: why hasn't LA been overrun by a version of "Goonswarm" yet? Or am just that out of touch?

Maybe it has?

But in real life there are things that prevent it usually. If nothing else, when a force starts to dominate it will have schizms and split apart. But even before that point, a gang that begins to become poweful enough to threaten the interests of the major political powers of LA would attract attention from them.

Null is about big groups. Turning null into some faction warfare style little group thing is what has ****** null. In amongst the big groups and major wars you have little groups and skirmishes. This however changed with bubble immune ships and the rise of the uncatchable kiters.

The problem with null was stagnation. Lets be honest, the great wars fought from red moon rising through to dominion were the golden years of eve. I'm 42 and have gamed since the first computer games were invented. Eve online during that period was the greatest gaming i've ever been a part of and will likely never see again. The reason why most of us are complaining about the state of null is we can see the direction null is going and there will never be another time like that. I truly feel sorry for all you newbies that missed it.

There are a whole bunch of reasons for the stagnation. The biggest single reason is you no longer have the likes of Sir Mole to drive conflict. COAD really was a great conflict driver and the changes made there I think was the start of the end. Nowadays the passionate 'grrr kill goons' feeds recruits into the likes of MOA who are invulnerable as far as sov goes and can get their sweet revenge flying fast uncatachable ships around CFC space. You need the likes of MOA to instead be part of the bigger groups, tie the passion in with groups that can actually fight a proper sov war. If you look at the groups that if combined could bring that kind of fight, BL, PL, MOA all live in NPC protected stations. They are not true sov holders they have nothing to risk, nothing to fight for, no chance to rally up everyone to save their **** from burning to the ground.

You need the biggest isk rewards to be in null. You need the associated risk of losing your stuff as the balance for the reward. You shouldn't be able to just hide out conflict in a npc station. You shouldn't be able to make better money from other areas of eve. You need more varied PVE in null not just anomolies. Null should be dangerous and not filled with uncatchable little ****** ships.

True resource depletion and mechanics to discover new and destroy old systems would go a long way toward fixing the stagnation.

Well, if you really must ask...


Yeah....

How about waiting for the new sov system to be up and running and then tweaked?

Oh and how about stop bitching and whining on the forums because your corporation of 10 can't do anything.

I just want to see the battles "mydingaling" was talking about.

I'm not in any corp or alliance right now. I haven't had time to dedicate any serious time to this game for a year now, getting maybe one day off a week (sometimes 13 day stretches between days off.)


Joining Goons is always an option. But a boring one. Joining a "corporation of 10 that can't do anything" is also an option. But also a boring one.

I want a not boring option.