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Fuel blocks! (and CCP Soundwaves wildlife safety advice)

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Dasola
New Edens Freeports
#281 - 2011-12-10 21:20:09 UTC
Glad to hear theres now confirmed date when fuel switchover will happen.

How ever im not suprised at all that ccp needed extra time for this. Hope you actyally test and hammer that code to see that its really bulletproof. Becouse your ruthless playerbase will find any bugs you overlooked.


Best of luck for everyone, hope all your POSes stay online and ccp dosent mess up as usuall.

Yes im not currently running POS myself, but am planning doing so soon. Have been delaying it becouse this fuel change...

We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do...

CCP Greyscale
C C P
C C P Alliance
#282 - 2011-12-10 21:34:39 UTC
Thalen Draganos wrote:
No.....No.....try not. Do or do not there is no try.


Smart way to play this is to tell yourself that you will, and your customers that you probably will. The do-or-do-not thing applies very well to personal goal-setting, but customers generally appreciate broken promises even less than they appreciate vagueness.

Kasulli wrote:
CCP - Learn from poor communication and prioritization. Had you fixed star base code years ago, this change-over probably would have been much simpler. Crucible is great, lots of fixes, keep up the focus on fixing EVE - because it still has broken parts like FW and the Star Base Code. You'd make a lot of people happy, hisec to WH and everything between, if the star base code was revamped such that future improvements like fuel blocks could be easily implemented and adjusted. Everyone agrees fuel blocks are great - you've just managed to totally mess up implementing it and cost a lot of people time and money (one can be recuperated, the other not).


This isn't news to us, don't worry What? We know we've been directing our efforts in suboptimal directions recently, and we've said as much in public. We do plan to spend more time revisiting old systems in the future. Unfortunately, we can't make this happen all at once.

ZaBob wrote:
(Paraphrasing) Hey Greyscale, you're clearly not a DB programmer.


Correct Oops
Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
#283 - 2011-12-10 22:37:22 UTC
So... another day, pulling the POS fuels from the PI, looking at the stockpile of Ice fuels I gathered, pulled another batch of cubes from the oven... can't figure out what all the fuss is about.

Regardless, I need to bring in ice fuels periodically, that won't change... still create the pos fuel materials with the PI, that won't changed, have more time to build a healthy reserve of fuel chunks (that did change... Lol )

Maybe if's only my perspective, but I see this as a positive which gives me more time to be well ready for the switch. Then again, single pos to worry over, full pos PI in the hole...

Six months in the hole... it changes a man.

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#284 - 2011-12-10 22:39:16 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Soundwave will you have my babies? Lol


Giggi...ty?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Smoking Blunts
ZC Omega
Goonswarm Federation
#285 - 2011-12-10 22:39:42 UTC
so the fuel bay size increase, is it gonna stay after your quick fix?

OMG when can i get a pic here

uglybass
With or Without
#286 - 2011-12-11 00:49:51 UTC
Sorry skipped bout 7 pages....
To those ppl who accuse people being dumb and converting fuel since CCP did say "round two weeks"
and To CCP
My sugesstion is:
Why not FIRST test youre future implementation/changes in game BEFORE announcing them ?!
youre doing it backwards atm...
da Rokha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#287 - 2011-12-11 01:31:06 UTC  |  Edited by: da Rokha
CCP Soundwave wrote:
Seleene wrote:
CCP Prism X wrote:
Why are you tackling these inconsequential survival myths?
What about drinking my own urine? I should be drinking my own urine while the snake bites me, right?!


Gave you a like for this one, bro.


CCP Prism should continue drinking his own urine. Everyone else should not.


wait ... I always thought that pissing on the wound that taipan bites will help? Now what?
da Rokha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#288 - 2011-12-11 01:39:09 UTC
CynoNet Two wrote:
Thanks for letting us know this on December 9th, two weeks after everyone asked you to postpone this change. We've all really enjoyed rushing around half-filling towers with fuel blocks all week only to now have to replace with normal fuel again for another month.

**** you very much


hah! why not reprocessing that fuel blocks you've made? Lack of an efficient refining facility? Nice concept of a time sink ...
Infinion
Awesome Corp
#289 - 2011-12-11 09:52:40 UTC
It's funny how you guys can't refuel your own posses like you always have. You decided to switch out existing fuel to make fuel blocks and that's pretty much your own fault for deciding to do it that way.
Valkerias
Society of Friends
#290 - 2011-12-11 11:08:28 UTC
Infinion wrote:
It's funny how you guys can't refuel your own posses like you always have. You decided to switch out existing fuel to make fuel blocks and that's pretty much your own fault for deciding to do it that way.


Yes, it's their fault for taking CCP at their word. Especially considering how soon it was that we learned "the taxes will be DOUBLED" means "multiplied by whatever number we feel like."
LT Geordi LaForge
Corrosive Security
#291 - 2011-12-11 11:12:36 UTC
So, we're using Prism X's urine for POS fuel, and drink snakes if you get bitten by a fuel block. Got it!
MuppetsSlayed
Angelus.Mortis
Goonswarm Federation
#292 - 2011-12-11 11:32:19 UTC
[quote=CCP Greyscale]OK, so here's what happened.


We can't safely do the switch between ~Decembec 17th and ~January 15th due to various key people leaving the country for Christmas, and the need for a clear run-up to the patch.
quote]




OFFICIAL NOTICE: DUE TO COMPLETELY SCREWING UP ....... CHRISTMAS LEAVE HAS BEEN DELAYED FOR "various key people" SO THIS CAN BE PUT RIGHT.
Miss Misses
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#293 - 2011-12-11 12:06:14 UTC
Thx ccp

wih this new easy blocks i will finally get my own pos because it will not be horrible to keep it running :D

just gotta wait for prices to settle now :)



PS: can we get a reply button on the forums so we need not first log in?
Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
#294 - 2011-12-11 12:29:35 UTC
MuppetsSlayed wrote:
OFFICIAL NOTICE: DUE TO COMPLETELY SCREWING UP ....... CHRISTMAS LEAVE HAS BEEN DELAYED FOR "various key people" SO THIS CAN BE PUT RIGHT.

You are completely right, your Internet pixel starbases are much more important than people's Christmas plans Roll

What happens in lowsec, stays in lowsec, lowering the barrier to entry to lowsec PVP: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=476644&#post476644

Serenity Izia
Proxy Nebula
#295 - 2011-12-11 12:36:10 UTC
i think it has more to do with the fact, that people now have taken their statement about not screwing up, and working to better them selves, etc. to heart. And decided to Work AHEAD on CCP's word with the 2 week aprox statement.

And most even seem to have saved a spare weeks worth, but then pushing the date so far out in the future as the did, prop made people pissed..

Afterall, they are paying for a serivce, where the guys in charge of maintaining, and expanding this service, made a promise and went back on their promise.. Only in this case, it might have / will have some pretty explosive / risky consequenses..
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#296 - 2011-12-11 14:03:24 UTC
MuppetsSlayed wrote:

OFFICIAL NOTICE: DUE TO COMPLETELY SCREWING UP ....... CHRISTMAS LEAVE HAS BEEN DELAYED FOR "various key people" SO THIS CAN BE PUT RIGHT.


If my boss said I needed to cancel my flight, get a new flight less than a week from christmas, and work because it would keep the company from failing, I'd yell, insist on the company paying the flights, then do it. If he said it was because we wanted to get a feature out on time to improve things, I'd dress him down and happily go on my flight.

tl;dr Smart management doesn't f*ck with vacation time without *TONS* of notice, and not even then.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Lucia Ferragano
Nigerian Money Transfers Inc.
#297 - 2011-12-11 15:21:03 UTC
Anne Lou wrote:
Lots of Brilliant (TM).


Also, you can send them that poisonous snake over :p
Lucia Ferragano
Nigerian Money Transfers Inc.
#298 - 2011-12-11 15:35:58 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:

Stuff.


As annoyed as I can be by CCP sometimes, they've been rather humble these days, they've put what my mates and I consider a fun expansion out, and it is a very hard industry. People value their fun time way more than their work time, and are consequently very demanding.

I reserve my opinion on this particular subject, but at least, it made for good reading ^^
Lucia Ferragano
Nigerian Money Transfers Inc.
#299 - 2011-12-11 15:36:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucia Ferragano
WTH why is there no "double-post" check on this forum?

Edit: Why does the edit reason become silently cut?

I think someone(s) should have been working on fuel blocks instead of implementing a inhouse crappy forum :D

But then again, who am I to complain, just a random stupid user ;)
Lucia Ferragano
Nigerian Money Transfers Inc.
#300 - 2011-12-11 15:45:30 UTC
Lucia Ferragano wrote:
WTH why is there no "double-post" check on this forum?

Edit: Why does the edit reason become silently cut?

I think someone(s) should have been working on fuel blocks instead of implementing a inhouse crappy forum :D

But then again, who am I to complain, just a random stupid user ;)


Side note, I once read an argument about game-makers not reading forums as a brain-health safety measure. It must be a bit nerve wracking to put your heart to your work and get flamed for failures, perceived failures or just regular whiner-pleasure :D