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Is it possible for the Empires to come to a truce?
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Goldfinch
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#201 - 2015-09-18 12:49:24 UTC

People want to feel safe in their homes, and provide for their families. They want clean water and employment. They want to be able to kiss their children and tuck them into bed at night, and grow old amongst their loved ones.

War is a construct of the minority, a vocal minority.

We don't need Drifters to bring us together. All we would need to do is remember what it is we try and live for.

\J/

veiled and bound

my origin story (on eve-backstage)
Arrendis
TK Corp
#202 - 2015-09-18 13:37:51 UTC
Goldfinch wrote:

People want to feel safe in their homes, and provide for their families. They want clean water and employment. They want to be able to kiss their children and tuck them into bed at night, and grow old amongst their loved ones.

War is a construct of the minority, a vocal minority.


For many, safety and family - Clan and Tribe, certainly, are inherently threatened by the continued enslavement of our kin. War is simply the word used when enough aggressors meet enough people who are no longer willing to be victims.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#203 - 2015-09-18 14:21:39 UTC
Viktor Revon wrote:

Oh, and Ms. Kim, I am not against the State, in fact you may have called me a Caldari Extremist in the past, or Caldari Loyalist up until a few months ago in which I drew back from the conflict.

Also, Mr. Surge, I most certainly will look for the quotes when I get the time, which may be a while, but I will get them when possible.

I don't care who you were, I care who you are and what you are doing.
If you attacking Caldari officers - be prepared to be attacked back, without telling how you were fluffy and white, gathering flowers, or whatever. We are at WAR.

If you side with enemy, YOU DIE AS ENEMY. Do you have at least a tiny piece of dignity left?!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#204 - 2015-09-18 14:27:39 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:

Kim-baka's racist, genocidal and xenophobic rantings have been archived over the past several years. I suggest you do some research pilot and avail yourself of the IGS' search function. Kim's diatribes, both in print and in person, are well known.

It is funny to see how incompetent enemies who are afraid to meet you on field degrade themselves to groundless lies like this Rella loves to spit out.

Well, she won't be able to hide everywhere and everytime. Someday the justice will come and this tribal will finally meet her ancestors in disgrace. Probably staying on her knees, crying and begging for mercy, as a good slave. Isn't it the only thing she's good for, eh?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#205 - 2015-09-18 14:36:37 UTC
Goldfinch wrote:

People want to feel safe in their homes, and provide for their families. They want clean water and employment. They want to be able to kiss their children and tuck them into bed at night, and grow old amongst their loved ones.

War is a construct of the minority, a vocal minority.

We don't need Drifters to bring us together. All we would need to do is remember what it is we try and live for.


Unfortunately, in some places it is majority, who wants the war. Look for example at the Republic, and ask if they want to fight the Empire. Or the Gallente Federation with their "democracy".

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#206 - 2015-09-18 15:53:45 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Goldfinch wrote:

People want to feel safe in their homes, and provide for their families. They want clean water and employment. They want to be able to kiss their children and tuck them into bed at night, and grow old amongst their loved ones.

War is a construct of the minority, a vocal minority.

We don't need Drifters to bring us together. All we would need to do is remember what it is we try and live for.


Unfortunately, in some places it is majority, who wants the war. Look for example at the Republic, and ask if they want to fight the Empire. Or the Gallente Federation with their "democracy".


I don't want to fight the Empire. I want my people to be freed. The Republic is many tribes, many people, who all have different opinions. Also, you of all people accusing others of being warmongering is like a crow calling a white songbird too loud.

~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~

"Orte Jaitovalte sitasuyti ne obuetsa useuut ishu. Ketsiak ishiulyn." -Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#207 - 2015-09-18 17:29:28 UTC
I don't believe that the Empires will ever come completely to terms and enter a golden age of peace and cooperation - but unite in the face of a common enemy? Absolutely. They've already done so once.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#208 - 2015-09-18 17:32:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyrel Toov
Neph wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Goldfinch wrote:

People want to feel safe in their homes, and provide for their families. They want clean water and employment. They want to be able to kiss their children and tuck them into bed at night, and grow old amongst their loved ones.

War is a construct of the minority, a vocal minority.

We don't need Drifters to bring us together. All we would need to do is remember what it is we try and live for.


Unfortunately, in some places it is majority, who wants the war. Look for example at the Republic, and ask if they want to fight the Empire. Or the Gallente Federation with their "democracy".


I don't want to fight the Empire. I want my people to be freed. The Republic is many tribes, many people, who all have different opinions. Also, you of all people accusing others of being warmongering is like a crow calling a white songbird too loud.

While I applaud the attempt at civil discourse, Kim is the last person in the cluster that will give in to it. She's more likely to insult you as being a "savage" or an "ignorant tribal" for that songbird reference then she is to reply to the point of your post..... And she may have a few choice words to say about mine, too.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#209 - 2015-09-18 18:38:19 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I don't believe that the Empires will ever come completely to terms and enter a golden age of peace and cooperation - but unite in the face of a common enemy? Absolutely. They've already done so once.

That's why we all need to put aside all our differences and fight together. As one.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#210 - 2015-09-18 18:55:10 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I don't believe that the Empires will ever come completely to terms and enter a golden age of peace and cooperation - but unite in the face of a common enemy? Absolutely. They've already done so once.

That's why we all need to put aside all our differences and fight together. As one.

Oh, blessed day! I never thought I'd hear that from Kimmy. There's hope for the cluster yet!

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#211 - 2015-09-18 18:56:17 UTC
As to the original point of this thread, I have to agree with Pilot Tuulinen. There's been too much blood spilled, too many harsh words and too many grievances for there to ever be any kind of long-term unity between the major powers. If, however, a clear and present threat appears that endangers us all then we might see cooperation.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#212 - 2015-09-18 20:03:33 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I don't believe that the Empires will ever come completely to terms and enter a golden age of peace and cooperation - but unite in the face of a common enemy? Absolutely. They've already done so once.

That's why we all need to put aside all our differences and fight together. As one.

Oh, blessed day! I never thought I'd hear that from Kimmy. There's hope for the cluster yet!

Yes, there's hope. That we all will get together to destroy the Federation and inconveniences like you.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#213 - 2015-09-18 20:38:31 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I don't believe that the Empires will ever come completely to terms and enter a golden age of peace and cooperation - but unite in the face of a common enemy? Absolutely. They've already done so once.

That's why we all need to put aside all our differences and fight together. As one.

Oh, blessed day! I never thought I'd hear that from Kimmy. There's hope for the cluster yet!

Yes, there's hope. That we all will get together to destroy the Federation and inconveniences like you.

Whelp, my faith in humanity just got shot down. Way to go Kimmy, this is why we can't have nice things....

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Viktor Revon
#214 - 2015-09-18 20:38:53 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I don't believe that the Empires will ever come completely to terms and enter a golden age of peace and cooperation - but unite in the face of a common enemy? Absolutely. They've already done so once.

That's why we all need to put aside all our differences and fight together. As one.

Oh, blessed day! I never thought I'd hear that from Kimmy. There's hope for the cluster yet!

Yes, there's hope. That we all will get together to destroy the Federation and inconveniences like you.

Damn, you took her hope and slammed it into a brick wall, pushed it onto the curb, stomped on it's face and shot it with a Doomsday Device.

Also, I am not siding with the enemy?
Drifters? I want them all dead.
Feds? If they leave me alone from here on out, I shall show the same respect. This is how all Caldari should be. We did not wish to be in their Federation so we broke away, not to swallow them up and become the Feds with a new face, but rather to live our way, without them ruling over us.

I think you may be forgetting this, Kim.

"Into the dark abyss shall we venture once more." - Viktor Revon
Ferrucio Surge
The Bag Cartel
#215 - 2015-09-21 00:12:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Ferrucio Surge
Perhaps part of the reason why the four nations will find it hard to come to peace is that despite mistakes being made on every side, they're not willing to apologize to each other for the worst offenses. On the other hand, there seems to be a sort of invisible guiding hand for the military-industrial complexes, always looking for another reason to pit us against each other like dogfight gamblers. In the end, they are the only winners
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#216 - 2015-09-21 07:46:17 UTC
Oh, I have no doubt that they will probably in a distant future... If civilization does not collapse until then.

Singularities and post-humanism tend to bring drastic changes to most societies as we know them and redefine completely the notions of power and authority...
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#217 - 2015-09-21 08:19:32 UTC
I just want to have a crack at their battleship and devour all that delicious technology. Imagine a Typhoon with that kind of propulsion tech! Or a Tempest with that shield tech! Or hell, we put that superweapon of theirs onto a Ragnarok!

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#218 - 2015-09-21 18:39:07 UTC
Viktor Revon wrote:

Drifters? I want them all dead.
Feds? If they leave me alone from here on out, I shall show the same respect. This is how all Caldari should be. We did not wish to be in their Federation so we broke away, not to swallow them up and become the Feds with a new face, but rather to live our way, without them ruling over us.

Oh, swallowing the gallente and becoming new Federation... Well, typical though of someone thinking in gallentean terms.

And Feds leaving your alone? Ha-ha-ha. Probably because they already got you. Otherwise they would never.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Viktor Revon
#219 - 2015-09-21 20:53:29 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Viktor Revon wrote:

Drifters? I want them all dead.
Feds? If they leave me alone from here on out, I shall show the same respect. This is how all Caldari should be. We did not wish to be in their Federation so we broke away, not to swallow them up and become the Feds with a new face, but rather to live our way, without them ruling over us.

Oh, swallowing the gallente and becoming new Federation... Well, typical though of someone thinking in gallentean terms.

And Feds leaving your alone? Ha-ha-ha. Probably because they already got you. Otherwise they would never.

They have left me alone thus far, likely due to the fact I have completely avoided all Gallente space.

"Into the dark abyss shall we venture once more." - Viktor Revon
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#220 - 2015-09-22 13:35:06 UTC
Viktor Revon wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Viktor Revon wrote:

Drifters? I want them all dead.
Feds? If they leave me alone from here on out, I shall show the same respect. This is how all Caldari should be. We did not wish to be in their Federation so we broke away, not to swallow them up and become the Feds with a new face, but rather to live our way, without them ruling over us.

Oh, swallowing the gallente and becoming new Federation... Well, typical though of someone thinking in gallentean terms.

And Feds leaving your alone? Ha-ha-ha. Probably because they already got you. Otherwise they would never.

They have left me alone thus far, likely due to the fact I have completely avoided all Gallente space.


Sadly the definition of "Gallente space" can be highly fungible.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.