Intergalactic Summit

Hi..I'm not the best at this "serious discussion" stuff on the IGS but...I'm willing to try..

Ladies and gentlemen, the Drifters have proven themselves as a serious threat not to be taken lightly, currently the fight in Khanid space is going horribly for the Kingdom as control over the constellation has not budged...Well..they managed to claim 5% of the constellation before losing it to the drifters as of this morning...

As a mercenary its rather hypocritical of me to ask for some kind of cease fire between factions, but this threat is obviously nothing we have ever faced before.

I ask if it would be possible if the four empires would be willing to stop tossing more and more resources at theses pointless war-zones against each other and perhaps have a temporary truce to deal with this devastating force before it gets out of hand..THEN we can go back to killing each other

If the drifters manage to take out the largest nation in the entire cluster...Whats to say the State might last on its own..or the Republic..Or even the Federation...Alone we can lethal sure..But as a team we can dominate this foe quickly

Years ago the empires combined forces in order to fight off Sansha's nation. Why can't we do that again here and now against a more pressing enemy that can very well threaten the entirety of the cluster more than the Nation ever could..

And i don't think i need to remind you of the Empress....How she was obliterated in a matter of seconds in the HQ of the same Amarr Navy thats suppose to be fighting back theses damn things, they are not mindless drones, they are adaptive and resourceful and have tech that is far superior to our own.

We don't have to be friends forever..Just a temporary truce to deal with this cancer that we can quickly remove before it becomes fatal.

I fought at Sarum prime during that rally...I lost people close to me that day, i witnessed their power firsthand and I'm willing to not fight in this war as a mercenary, but a soldier to stop this madness

Besides...i can't even be a mercenary if the Drifters wipe everyone out...

This does presume the Drifters simply haven't gotten to the other races yet... which is entirely reasonable.

Unfortunately, while the empires have made display of solidarity before in this manner - to wipe the floor with the original Sansha's Nation - they seem to be too busy fighting amongst themselves and arguing about things to agree on anything except the most trivial of matters.

No, I feel if anyone is going to actually fight the Drifters, it'll be the Amarr and any capsuleer who cares to throw their hat in that particular ring. I'm holding onto a faint hope the empires will clue the hell in, but seems they won't.

If the Amarr Empire wishes to survive the price for Tribal intervention should be as follows:

1) Independance for the Ammatar people's and territory from the Empire. If that tribe wishes to maintain an alliance with the Empire on their own terms then that is their rightful business.

2) Immediate emancipation of all Minmatar and their descendants.

3) An outlawing of enslavement of any member of a Minmatar Tribe. If they wish to spread their religion then let them use peaceful means only.

4) War reparations to be paid to each Tribe commensurate with the physical, emotional, mental, cultural and material damage done by the Empire to that Tribe. Diplomats and financial experts can figure out the fund involved and a long payback period would be tolerable.

5) The 24th IC to abandon sovereignty they hold in any traditional Minmatar Territory in the Metropolis/Heimatar regions. Also for the Empire to cease any further aggression in the warzone. In perpetuity.

6) The Empire will provide ships and equipment to the Tribes in order to assist against the Drifter Incursions. Each Tribe would also be paid to compensate for any Minmatar losses.

7) Following the next crowning of an Emperor/Empress each Royal House shall send its next Heir to the Republic as guests in order to provide surety for the agreed measures being met.

This is just a draft but tell me, does that sound reasonable for the aid of those The Empire has been trying to persecute and ahnilalate for centuries?

No.

It doesn't.

Respectfully, pilot, we're likely fighting the Sleepers. If that's true, we're all aggressors, and the Drifters have cleverly picked the most easily-isolated first target.

They'll probably come after each of us in turn. If I were them, I'd go for the Gallente, next-- the Caldari will be asking questions similar to yours, and the Minmatar Republic will likely be busy trying to get to surviving formerly-enslaved Matari before the pirate factions do.

Then the State.

You'll burn last. With all your kin. And there'll be no one left to help you.

Sure, it's speculation, Evi, but not without basis. We've been seeing Sleeper-type facilities and devices associated with Drifter activity. This has actually been the case for a while, but the pattern's continuing enough to make me kind of doubt it's coincidence.

If it's the Sleepers we're fighting ... any empire that produces capsuleers is quite likely their enemy.

Also, respectfully, Evi ... you're my corpmate and therefore comrade and all, but you're in this to help empire capsuleers kill each other.

Right?

Is there a reason we should believe you have any empire's best interests at heart?

Don't you want to see us all burn?

I despise the governments. I have sympathy for the civilians caught under them. I consider myself aligned to the interests of an entity that has been at war with the empires for eight decades now.

Humanity will survive the Drfters. But if there is a god I shall pray to him that the empires do not.

Yeah. This.

Maybe we evolved past the need for "governments."

Someone mentioned the Jove? Notice how in the news when the Amarr Empress got aced, all the other "governments" sent words of support but there was no mention on the Jove. I think they got aced first.

Anything is possible.

However, there are some impediments.

1. Amarr has not formally asked for aid. Until they do, I am unwilling to 'invade' their space.

2. Amarr already has a declared ally in the Caldari State. Why aren't they helping, since the mechanisms are already in place? It appears that they haven't been asked.

3. Looney demands such as those advanced by Ms Vanis-Tor making it very politically difficult for Amarrian leaders to issue requests for aid, since without an Emperor, many of their people might suspect collusion and compromise.

Only if it becomes clear that Amarr is losing the battle, will any of the above have any traction.

The other empires would do well to prepare themselves to defend their territory, research the Drifters further, and stand ready to help if the call ever comes. It's widely claimed that we are all in danger, but with no evidence at all that this is the case.

We should not be complacent, but neither should we be precipitate.

Peace between the empires existed for over a century. And that peace would still be surviving until today had it not been for the insane actions of Shakor and his self-styled Elders.

Even after they attacked Amarr, Empress Jamyl took the brave step of releasing an unprecedented number of slaves. Many of us hoped that this peace overture would have some effect on the Minmatars. But did the Shakorites even consider making overtures of their own? They did not.

Is a truce possible?

We Amarrians are a peace-loving people, but unfortunately the Republic is run by a bunch of psychopaths who revel in death and destruction.

Don't mistake my comments on Sansha for approval of the Amarr. I actually have a certain respect for Sansha and his stated goals, at least in the original incarnation of his Nation. I was simply trying to contrast the first war against the Nation with the current Drifter situation.