Intergalactic Summit

Wonder how that will work out for them... kinda hard to defend your borders when your enemy jumps through wormholes.

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Everybody's got that problem these days, though. Even "natural" wormholes are problem for security.

This sort of statement was probably inevitable, though it seems likely to boil down to just destroying them whenever they appear within reach. Or trying to, anyway.

It'll be a costly fight, win or lose.

Let nobody be under the illusion that this war is simply between Amarr and the Drifters.

No. It is between humanity and the Drifters.

And in this war, there can be no middle ground. You are either with us and the rest of humanity, or you are with the Drifters.

I doubt you will be saying this when the Matari trade lanes are infested with these things or when they murder your precious tribal chiefs, The war against the Drifters should be a concern for the entire cluster and it seems like always only the Amarr are prepared to take a stand while the rest hide behind their mothers skirts out of fear and cowardice

This is where I get to say, again, "I told you so."

And yes, this is not just an Amarr war, this is surely a war for humanity, a war for our civilization as we know it. Republic, State, Federation, Cartel, NullSec, we are all in danger.

The OP is right in that we face an enemy that can appear anywhere. But we've faced enemies like that before. The enemy has a high degree of technology, they have strength. We have faced that before. We will prevail because we have no choice. We either win this war or everything Humanity has built was all for nothing.

Khanid Victor! Amarr Victor!

If, on a third hand, you believe that the Drifters had some specific reason to target Jamyl Sarum, and their latest reprisal comes after the declaration of war by Amarr, then why in New Eden would you want to give them a reason to view your high-sec Empire as provoking them?

As I've heard it, this generally happens when a capsuleer involves themselves with an observatory, or the seekers. Drifters arrive, the capsuleer flees, and they pursue to a gate, where defense forces react. The Drifters trade a few shots, then leave.

I suppose it depends on whether losing a third of humanity is an acceptable outcome. The fact is that all of our opinions on Drifter Intentions are suppositions. I'd really like to hear from the Drifters themselves and, thus far, they have wholly avoided communication with us. Even Sansha communicated his intentions and his reasons for war.

The only faction that doesn't are the Rogue Drones - who are dedicated to the annihilation of our species and their replacement of us in our space as the dominant species. In fact there's some justification for believing that the Drones don't even see us as sapient and assume that we are a biological infestation inside our ships - which they tend to cannibalise or take over themselves.

We would be very remiss in just assuming they're angry with a single person or faction with no strong evidence.

I think it would be prudent for all of the empires to declare war.


Though Roden has not said much more beyond the usual political obligatory stuff regarding the tragedy that has befallen the Amarr. That sneaky old man could be letting the Drifters join the Federation for all we know.



Humor aside, of all the empires, the Federation is probably the most vulnerable to attack. This is a downside of course, but on the upside this would be a new opportunity for the Intaki to get out of the Federation if it collapses.

I have a feeling things won't go well for Amarr. They have a weakness that is born of comeuppance. If the Drifters were to boost and ally with the Matar it would be the breakdown of the Amarr Empire.

So far the Drifters have demonstrated little more than brute force. Fear the day they discover that exploiting human weaknesses of intrigue and revenge is so much easier. They could burn the empires down without firing a shot.

It makes me wonder if the Drifters, so lacking in such evils, have motivations that we are yet to fully understand. They certainly are more honest: they shoot you with both hands instead of shaking your hand with one and stabbing you in the back with the other.

I'll fight for Amarr if I can get free cases of that Amarr Victor beer. That's some good brew.

Stupid hippies running the Federation won't allow imports. Might hurt some feelings they say.

("Hippie" is an old slang word probably going back to ancient Sol. Best I can figure from scant information gathered from archeological sites is that they were a cult of sorts that eschewed logic and prayed every day at 4:20 PM, for some reason)