EVE General Discussion

Ok Mr. Smartass, tell me what content is left for capitals that can not be done more efficient and with way less risk and training time involved in other ships.

Dreads might be used to bash POSes. But thats about it. And u still risk being a sitting duck with one if u try it, so not even that is realy left.

Maybe they should just lower the Cap skill requirements, and then kick the SP back to the Vets as unallocated sp to spend elsewhere?



Although I think it would be cool to set up some PVE sites that can only be tackled by a group that has caps. Or maybe PVE POS's to destroy?

I definitely agree there needs to be something you can use them for outside of Soveriegnty battles. If only because with the increasing stability throughout null, there aren't a lot of POS bashing battles to be fought. And only some corps will even get the chance to participate.

Yeah. That.

I recently purchased a character on Character Bazaar who has maxed Dread Skills, including having Capital Hybrids to V - and I just treat that as wasted SP.

Maybe I should be glad Caps got nerfed, because I probably got a cheaper price than I would have otherwise.

That is another form of fallacy. "Fact" is that which needs no explanation, and truth is that which needs no defense.

The fact that YOU see no reason, or HE sees no reason does not make a fact that NO ONE sees reason.

My most profitable sales from a long time to some days ago are capital pilots. Dedicated ones. And I have them because I see reason to. People buy them on the bazaar because they see reason to.

You just seeded your own counter in your own post. People who doesnt know how to use a rorqual think of as a glofied pos module. People who doesnt know how to use them dont know what to do with them.

That is nothing new. Since capitals are somehow readly available that people are trying to use them as some kind of "big sub capital". Most people think of fleets in terms of multiple solo players. People want capital ships to be some kind of cruiser you use to anything. They arent. Capital ships arent something you go there and train as an "evolution" of your training. Almost no one who trains for a capital ship will ever be in the position to use one.

They even got you that pretty diagram telling how ships stack up in different roles, and people still banging heads on the wall thinking that "oh, I train for frig, then cruiser, then bc, then bs, then capital." That is like you "leveling up on eve" for people.

Well, that is not.

You know why you see most often people going around with strategic cruiser ? Because they are the only ships you can use reasonably well for anything, but they are not actually perfect for nothing. Most people dont know that because they never face someone who actually uses other ships in their own roles.

When you go to a fleet engagement, you see good team work, and you see that the proficient frig pilot has no reason to think of a capital pilot as his superior, and vice versa, because each one knows their places.

Again, if you right now say you see no reason for using capitals, it is because you are a crappy capital pilot.

One of my dislikes about Eve has always been that it lacks instant gratification. And it's almost impossible to do any PvP by yourself, you need to be at least in a small gang.

I've always enjoyed the player-driven economy in Eve, and that has been my main gameplay style for years. But I think the PvP is very boring. Sometimes you'll have to camp / hunt for hours, just to get one kill or none at all.

While this may be appealing for some people, it is a niche group.

I don't know how CCP can pull this off, but perhaps they can introduce some instant gratification, and maybe some fast-paced PvP.

If you only have 1 hour for gaming - I think most people would prefer a game where they can log in and get some instant gratification.

In Eve, you cannot do anything with 1 hour, except adjust your market orders / production slots / research slots, etc.

Most of the time, even a small-gang roam or gatecamp would take over an hour, to get any tiny bit of result.

Whereas in other games, you would have already gotten lots of action.

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New players do buy PLEX not for subscriptions but to raise isk.

Players that have been around for awhile and have plenty of isk, convert isk into PLEX as an investment, after all what else can they invest their spare isk into.

They could be alts, you wouldn't really want to spend too much time just waiting if it was your main.

6 has got to be one of the most common and dumbest ideas proposed.

Would you incur a substantial cost for a short term gain that may or may not exceed your costs and keep in mind you have to discount your gains based on the probability of winning. If you expect to win with a 0.9 probability then you have to discount your gains by 10% (i.e. if the moon income was going to be 10 billion, you'd have to discount it to an expected gain of 9 billion a priori).

Fixing the price of PLEX or anything else tends not to work too well. For one thing ISK sellers would love you for it. Further, a price set below the market clearing price creates a situation known as excess demand. That is you might want to buy a PLEX at the fixed price of 750 million, but there might not be any on the market because people who would have bought a PLEX and sold it to you for 800 or 900 million are now no longer willing to buy a PLEX and sell it. You are probably too young to remember the gas lines of the late 1970s, but I do and price floors were stupid then and are stupid now.

Mining boats did get a boost to their tank. Use a procuror with a tank, or even better a skiff. If you can't get your skiff's EHP over 100k you are doing it wrong (with the right boosts you should be able to go over 120k in EHP and with heat over 150k in EHP).

HOLY ****. It almost like....



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