EVE General Discussion

Nice false dichotomy you have there. How about dealing with the NPE and perceived/real barrier of entry in a way that all players can access not just rich in game vets and rich in real life new guys ?

Problem with EVE now is that there's too much content.

Sorry guys, but the problem with EVE subs right now is PLEX prices. I don't PLEX myself, but know plenty of guys that do and they have either left completely or dropped extra accounts because of high prices. It seems the "breaking" point was somewhere around 750 mill for PLEX and as PLEX rises, subs have gone down.

Jump fatigue and the new sov system have also contributed to the decline in numbers, but I would say overall, especially in high sec, PLEX prices are the main issue for declining numbers.

If PLEX went back to 750 mil, I bet EVE subs rise 25%.

CCP should sell PLEX at a steady price of ~900 mil in just a few stations located in high sec.

Because of the suicide gankers focusing on the antrepreneurs that will eventualy try to move some PLEX to low/null. This way newb just like miself won"t be so dissapointed because losing ships so often to a 5 yo char while minibg or doing missions.This is just one of the good things that can happen for this game subs numbers.

I understand that many players can*t go to highsec ?

You are making the mistake of thinking that plex exists so you can play the game for free. It does not. It's primary purpose is to combat RMT. For this purpose, the case could be argued that a higher price is better.

I like EvE because it's like Elite:dangerous except alot easier.

I don't know what CCP's policies are about PLEX, but with all due respect, I think they may be in a bit of denial. I am just going by what I hear in chat and on comms, players like idea of "playing for free". When PLEX becomes too much of a grind for these players to afford, they feel like their time is wasted and are leaving the game. My old alliance have pretty much left the game, mostly due to the rising cost of "playing for free". Some of these guys were long time players and ran several accounts each, but ended up spending most of their time playing to PLEX.

Let's face it, who hasn't gone into a store and seen a sign buy 1 get 1 free? I bet some of you buy this item, not because you need it, but because you are getting an extra one for free. C'mon admit it, I work in retail, I know this is true! All I am saying is that players like the idea of "free", even though that PLEX was actually bought by someone else.

I am not sure a fixed price for PLEX is the solution, but it would take away the price uncertainty of "playing for free", even if it was 1 billion and maybe start to stabilize the dropping numbers.

I also agree the existing game needs some love, before adding major new stuff. I actually wouldn't mind a rewind of about 3 years and wipe out some of blunders that have been added as "content". The ongoing issue with sov would be one of these. It's sad that so much work was put into something this large, but the new sov system needs to go to the scrap heap.

Fix the in game glitches, add a few small items, do some ship rebalancing and let players create the content. I do believe the launch of Citadels are a step in the right direction for large content and am very excited and a bit scared about how it will be introduced to the game.

Can I just say from this guy's unimportant perspective that maybe EVE as a game has been a let-down more recently?

Look I don't know how to fix it or whether game mechanics or sov warfare or anything else is the right move to fix the apparent lack of interest in EVE, but what I can say, is that I started playing eve because it gave me this vision of grand space, where I would be free to roam, and find interesting things that maybe no one else has found before, and that maybe I can cut out a little piece of EVE (like a planet or a system in the middle of nowhere) and be it's owner.

I came to realize that roaming and finding interesting things is super rare, and most of the time there's NOTHING unique about it, and the most troubling thing for me was that in order for me to cut that little piece of heaven out, the time, resources, and BS I had to go through was years-long, that's assuming I could understand the unnecessarily complex sov warfare bull**** I had to go through , convince like a hundred people to join me (so much harder than it seems), and deal with all sorts of other issues.

The recent changes have exasperated those issues for me. Once again I don't know what if anything needs to change, but what I know is that EVE does not let me escape into my vision, and I think so many people feel that same way too - so many of us are starting to look at other games that give this sensation of an infinite universe with infinite possibilities in which the underdog can still hold his own.

Here the underdog is sh** on, spit on, and made to walk back home with his tail in between his legs, and the only people that enjoy that are the people doing the **itting, and the numbers will fall until they're the only ones left on EVE (and then they'll leave as well because they'll be too old for this?)