EVE General Discussion

Sure, just a quick search with the right keywords yields this right here:



You also went ahead and pretty much implied it's stupid here:



All from here:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2120213#post2120213

But here's the thing. You'll probably claim it's been taken out of context or that isn't really what you meant, or [insert whatever excuse here]. Bottom line is you did say it, and you do mean it. Really there is nothing new here.

Of course it's been taken out of context. At this point it's the only defense you have to save face ;)

Deny, deny, deny. And hurl some insults to make it seem legit. Gotcha.

This isn't even denied by CCP they have posted it many times, and no I am not digging for information so they can ignore it some more.

This company has spent a majority of its time ignoring the majority of its playerbase while trying to appease the null sec blue donut for who knows what reasoning.

At least in other games players are enticed to stick around to be food for the others.
Eve has no real reward system to being food to stick around to be in a donut of power.

I have played several MMO's through the years and this one has the worst **** poor progression of any of them.

It really isn't worth explaining anymore, most people I know that played wont return, I ask myself why I did, I know I wont again.
This game is a horrible experience and it isn't the players fault at the least, its the people running it.

Taking advice from people who will directly benefit from that advice and then acting like its more important than others is stupid.
Almost as stupid as putting a shooter exclusively on a console that isn't the one that your star product runs on (this one).

Sure EVE lets you play with people around the world, but honestly, when they cant even let you play without artificial lag (time dilation) after how many years? They create their own problems of the blue donut then act like its the players fault.

It seems that's the legacy of this game to try to blame the players of its legacy, the only smart dev I have seen from this group was the one who went to work for League of Legends.

You are going to dismiss it anyways even if he came here with a signed letter from the CEO himself of CCP.

And its not like you have never made a claim which was not backed by data... sometimes you even post data and you misinterpret or spin it to your advantage.

Oh well, so it goes with GD.

It would be very difficult to argue that since Incursions the expansions of Eve for the last 5 years have been anything but updates to Null.

Highsec, Industry and Wormholes have been slowly left to die in the last couple years. You can go to the wormhole forum and say "CCP loves Wormholes and has added content to them" and watch as you get laughed out of the forum.

Same thing for the industry and mission forums, go there and tell them updates were all for them...

Bottom line is, its not a real quantifiable thing to put hard values on what expansions helped and hurt per se... we can however quantify the number of revisions to capital ships, Sov, Anoms, system upgrades and such, which are exclusive to null/low sec space.

"Soviet"/Russian, but yes, a large number of players are Russian (don't believe me, believe my poor semi-blinged Battleship that got Russian-ganked in a Sisters' mission system). So the problems Russians are having is likely to have an impact on EVE's numbers.

That means it's time to set up more effective advertising and get more folks from everywhere into EVE. Anyone speak Japanese?

Since I don't get off work for a few hours I can't do it yet, but I'll go back through the expansions and put them into some sort of 'null', 'low', 'high' grouping where that makes sense (eg. Burner missions = high because that makes sense, Industry = no classification since it applies equally, Removsl of standing for POS = High, sov changes = null, shattered wormholes = J-space, etc.).

There will probably be some edge cases, like the 2012 Wardec changes, which logically sit as a highsec update, though they have some application to lowsec also (sentry guns won't fire) but not in any practical way. But I'll make that clear in the data.

We'll see whether the "far far majority of updates are only for nullsec" holds true.

On the surface, no way it will, but the data will give a definitive answer. My guess is that the far, far majority of updates apply equally in all security status areas (eg. New ships, ship rebalance, SKINS, graphics and sound updates, module tierecide, industry changes, etc.)

Hmm. Srsly. TLDR.

Anyone suggested a server merge yet? -.^

(yes, yes..yes i know :) ... but surely one of these 'the end is nigh' posts might have? )

^_^

Thank you!