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What happened in null
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Col Arran
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-08-23 03:03:10 UTC
So I've been away ever since CCP implemented the new skill queue as I no longer had a reason to log in for a very long time. Decided to take a look around, sov map is completely changed seeing a lot of names that I didn't expect (BL has sov wut?). Looks like N3 finally disbanded? I have no clue here guys so could someone give me an update?
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-08-23 03:12:22 UTC
Oh, huge man!

To sum up, sov control and massive changes to how cyno works made it much bigger feeling and encouraging denser lifestyle and frontline battle.

Came in at the right time, it is in the midst of a full on overhaul, you would not recognize the mechanics now.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Col Arran
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-08-23 03:16:33 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
Oh, huge man!

To sum up, sov control and massive changes to how cyno works made it much bigger feeling and encouraging denser lifestyle and frontline battle.

Came in at the right time, it is in the midst of a full on overhaul, you would not recognize the mechanics now.


Hmm the map did look a lot more fragmented in the south than I've ever seen it. Sounds like things are getting interesting once again.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-08-23 03:20:36 UTC
I left before the changes happen, so the finer points hopefully people will come in and flesh out.

The biggest I have heard word about is that subcaps are much more required again. Caps can make use of jumpgates now though. I am actually looking forward to seeing what others post about the change in lifestyle of null. There was a pretty quick drop in players when they made the changes, but I think is the best in the longterm. We had a coalition win nullsec, now it is time for hardcore mode.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Taid Hawken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-08-23 03:53:39 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera
#6 - 2015-08-23 13:31:56 UTC
Col Arran wrote:
Hmm the map did look a lot more fragmented in the south than I've ever seen it. Sounds like things are getting interesting once again.
Coalition map
Col Arran wrote:
What happened in Null?
Fozzie SOV.
Which means a griefer's paradise and if someone actually wants SOV then the question is, "Who is willing to troll for SOV the longest?"

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2015-08-23 14:14:55 UTC
We won so CCP had to change sov mechanics.

What they came up with requires much polish and the odd bullet to the head but can work.
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#8 - 2015-08-23 14:38:24 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
We won so CCP had to change sov mechanics.

What they came up with requires much polish and the odd bullet to the head but can work.


More like infested. CCP really should reduce the maximum numbers allowed in a corp for the better.
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-08-23 14:44:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Gallowmere Rorschach
Daniela Doran wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
We won so CCP had to change sov mechanics.

What they came up with requires much polish and the odd bullet to the head but can work.


More like infested. CCP really should reduce the maximum numbers allowed in a corp for the better.

Yeah, that way we have more stuff like the CVA out of game red list.

We've been over this. If they start tightening restrictions on stuff like that in game, it will just be handled with out of game tools.

Edit: guess who that's going to hurt. Here's a hint: it's not the people who already have a wealth of out of game tools at their disposal.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#10 - 2015-08-23 14:51:05 UTC
Col Arran wrote:
Hmm the map did look a lot more fragmented in the south than I've ever seen it. Sounds like things are getting interesting once again.

Yes, op success for lasersov!!

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Hemmo Paskiainen
#11 - 2015-08-23 16:26:37 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
We won so CCP had to change sov mechanics.

What they came up with requires much polish and the odd bullet to the head but can work.

If you cheat, you are disqualified. You all got disqualified quet some years ago. And besides..... goons is the new BoB, so you have lost anyway.

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
Jenshae Chiroptera
#12 - 2015-08-23 16:59:57 UTC
If I were CCP, I would be sorely tempted to disband CFC alliances / corps, stop them contacting or fleeting with each other and scatter them and their stuff all over High / Low Sec.

It would probably be bad for business but the rage would be hot enough to warm you through winter.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#13 - 2015-08-23 17:58:38 UTC
That's the kind of attitude we need

You should join up with massadeath

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-08-23 22:05:28 UTC
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
We won so CCP had to change sov mechanics.

What they came up with requires much polish and the odd bullet to the head but can work.

If you cheat, you are disqualified. You all got disqualified quet some years ago. And besides..... goons is the new BoB, so you have lost anyway.


So when will the goons get t2 BPO's from the devs?

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2015-08-23 22:35:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiddle Jr
What happen is Goons gave away half of their ex sov, and guess what? Everyone start blaming them for this. That's ironic.

Now they want to do some pokes and ass slaps on provi whor... Hmmm Mature Ladies.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#16 - 2015-08-24 04:21:27 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
What happen is Goons gave away half of their ex sov, and guess what? Everyone start blaming them for this. That's ironic.

If you want someone to die, it's insulting when they only half-kill themselves.

And moa can't finish the job

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-08-24 04:35:40 UTC
I will admit. I quite dislike the attitude that Goonswarm brought to the game through player interactions.

But personal opinions aside, they still played eve as it should be. They became a powerhouse and maximized everything to, as they put it, Win Eve.

Eve was a harsh place, so people had a choice. Stand up and fight, or join with the victors. With goonswarm, people joined up. The reasoning why? I will never know, but it doesn't matter I guess. Will see what they do in the longterm. Become a coalition of even more alliances, or will they fragment for the lulz as more changes come out? Time will tell. As CCP put it, this is just the start of a much grander plan.

As any good business knows, need a short term and long term to survive. If things keep improving as they have been since the start of the year, 2016 is going to be awesome. Shoot, I might join back up with a nullsec corp.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2015-08-24 04:42:20 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Tiddle Jr wrote:
What happen is Goons gave away half of their ex sov, and guess what? Everyone start blaming them for this. That's ironic.

If you want someone to die, it's insulting when they only half-kill themselves.

And moa can't finish the job


If the only reason MoA exists is GSF that's pretty ironic as well since they will never finish the job.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#19 - 2015-08-24 18:40:56 UTC
No, moa was around as an entity before they joined GSF

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#20 - 2015-08-25 00:09:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Harry Forever, where are you? The time is now!
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