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TiDi. Why is noone talking about it ?

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Lexa Maersk
New Eden Resellers
#1 - 2015-08-21 10:42:24 UTC
So as you all know .. Tidi is a system set in place to slow down time on a node that would otherwise be overwhelmed with commands and in the end Crash
It slows down time ingame to better handle all the action
But what it's supposed to do .. and whats happens is 2 diffrent stories


In my time of playing (7-8 years now ) Ive seen some wierd buggs happening whenever tidi kicks in ..

titans that died wich somehow respawns and lets people board them .. Jump in them and repair them (so called ghost titans)

Dreads with No gun cycle time meaning they would shoot as fast as you could press F1

Titans warping out even tho its Hic pointed and inside a large amount of bubbles

Fighters that getts stuck in (Following) state but never does return

Ships that are unable to warp . And i do understand that in tidi warping can take alot of time . but im talking not being able to initiate all together


The list just goes on .. And these are things that Tidi introduces .. it never happens in systems without Tidi .. So why is nothing being done ?

i was in a system last night with just 150 People in it . and that system was as broken as it was ever gonna be .. i mean CCP has Bragged all these years about how eve is 1 server were thousands of people can Interact . but aparently if 100+ of them decide to shoot in the same system . everything falls apart ? Im just seriously wondering why are we seeing all this new content . when clearly the servers cant handle what we got already

Jenshae Chiroptera
#2 - 2015-08-21 10:46:56 UTC
TiDi > no TiDi

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Miko Jin
HELVEGEN
#3 - 2015-08-21 11:22:06 UTC
In my time of playing (7-8 years now ) Ive seen some wierd buggs happening whenever tidi kicks in ..

In that 7-8 years it may have been more appropriate to learn spelling and grammar.
Lexa Maersk
New Eden Resellers
#4 - 2015-08-21 11:27:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Lexa Maersk
Miko Jin wrote:
In my time of playing (7-8 years now ) Ive seen some wierd buggs happening whenever tidi kicks in ..

In that 7-8 years it may have been more appropriate to learn spelling and grammar.



Trolling is always welcome . Not being Born in an english speaking country i ofc should be ashamed for not being able to perfectly spell a second or even third language ..im so sorry .
i could refer to this LINK

and say im pretty sure youll survive reading my post
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#5 - 2015-08-21 11:35:19 UTC
There is normal time, there is Time Dilation time (from 99% to 10%) and then there is "beyond Time Dilation" time (will show as 10% but in fact the load has become much greater and internally we measure the state of Dogma Lateness).

What you are describing is what can sometimes happen when even Time Dilation at 10% is not enough for the server node to cope with the required computation. Some of these were issues that were fixed or mitigated.

CCP Veritas explained these three states, and a lot more, in his 2014 devblog: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/what-a-hed-ache/

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2015-08-21 11:36:26 UTC
Lexa Maersk wrote:
So as you all know .. Tidi is a system set in place to slow down time on a node that would otherwise be overwhelmed with commands and in the end Crash
It slows down time ingame to better handle all the action
But what it's supposed to do .. and whats happens is 2 diffrent stories


In my time of playing (7-8 years now ) Ive seen some wierd buggs happening whenever tidi kicks in ..

titans that died wich somehow respawns and lets people board them .. Jump in them and repair them (so called ghost titans)

Dreads with No gun cycle time meaning they would shoot as fast as you could press F1

Titans warping out even tho its Hic pointed and inside a large amount of bubbles

Fighters that getts stuck in (Following) state but never does return

Ships that are unable to warp . And i do understand that in tidi warping can take alot of time . but im talking not being able to initiate all together


The list just goes on .. And these are things that Tidi introduces .. it never happens in systems without Tidi .. So why is nothing being done ?

i was in a system last night with just 150 People in it . and that system was as broken as it was ever gonna be .. i mean CCP has Bragged all these years about how eve is 1 server were thousands of people can Interact . but aparently if 100+ of them decide to shoot in the same system . everything falls apart ? Im just seriously wondering why are we seeing all this new content . when clearly the servers cant handle what we got already



All that and more happened before TiDi got established...only much worse.
I don't get people starting this "debate club" topics without real content...I amen thats not C&P here.
This threads always start the same way...some NPC Alt states that /he/she is playing this game "like before beta was meta" and then make a compleatly pointless accusation...

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Switch Savage
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-08-21 11:45:03 UTC
Miko Jin wrote:
In my time of playing (7-8 years now ) Ive seen some wierd buggs happening whenever tidi kicks in ..

In that 7-8 years it may have been more appropriate to learn spelling and grammar.


I never understand why people poke fun at someones spelling and grammar when you can still derive their intended meaning. If you are totally unable to understand them then perhaps let them know so they can attempt to rephrase, but that is not the case here.

Not had tons of experience with the Tidi issues you listed but what is the alternative to to it? I have always thought the system works well enough but then I'm not regularly in huge 100+ people brawls.
Soul Reaver
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-08-21 13:15:41 UTC
They do this simply because they are ******* know it all spelling bee, mummy's boy **** heads LOL.

The OP is quite correct though. I have many European friends that speak 4 or 5 languages.

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#9 - 2015-08-21 15:28:36 UTC
I will gladly accept TiDi and what OP claims are 'bugs' vs the blackscreen crashed node for dropped drones ****storm lagfest we used to have in even a 250 man fight.





Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Lexa Maersk
New Eden Resellers
#10 - 2015-08-21 15:51:16 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
I will gladly accept TiDi and what OP claims are 'bugs' vs the blackscreen crashed node for dropped drones ****storm lagfest we used to have in even a 250 man fight.








However ive lost 50x more isk to tidi than i ever did with the node crash
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#11 - 2015-08-21 15:55:44 UTC
I might be alone here, but I like TiDi. It can make for some interesting and funny situations.

Mr Epeen Cool
Cien Banchiere
Extrinsic Arcadia Distribution
#12 - 2015-08-21 16:15:32 UTC
Lexa Maersk wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
I will gladly accept TiDi and what OP claims are 'bugs' vs the blackscreen crashed node for dropped drones ****storm lagfest we used to have in even a 250 man fight.








However ive lost 50x more isk to tidi than i ever did with the node crash



I would take that as the games way of saying, "You just aren't meant for this kind of thing."
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#13 - 2015-08-21 16:24:14 UTC
No One is talking about it because the alternative is hell.

I have no idea why people ***** about TiDi, I assume they just have no idea what it was like without it.

Primary Test Subject • SmackTalker Elite

BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#14 - 2015-08-21 16:28:51 UTC
Lexa Maersk wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
I will gladly accept TiDi and what OP claims are 'bugs' vs the blackscreen crashed node for dropped drones ****storm lagfest we used to have in even a 250 man fight.

However ive lost 50x more isk to tidi than i ever did with the node crash



You lost 50x more ISK to tiDi BECAUSE tiDi has allowed you play long enough to loose it.
Can loose what you can't play.

Primary Test Subject • SmackTalker Elite

Lexa Maersk
New Eden Resellers
#15 - 2015-08-21 16:30:10 UTC
BoBoZoBo wrote:
No One is talking about it because the alternative is hell.

I have no idea why people ***** about TiDi, I assume they just have no idea what it was like without it.


i do know what it was like without it .. usually **** would stop working .. modules would refuse to cycle .. or stop . cause the server couldent handle the command .. But as i see it .. Now all you got is a server that refuses to take commands and is deing .. In slow motion

its supposed to keep the game running as intended .. Just slow .. but its not .. its running the server .. broken completly .. Slowly
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#16 - 2015-08-21 16:30:55 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
I might be alone here, but I like TiDi. It can make for some interesting and funny situations.

Mr Epeen Cool


I wish we had Tie-Dye Shirts on the NES.
Spurty
#17 - 2015-08-21 16:51:13 UTC
Lexa Maersk wrote:
i was in a system last night with just 150 People in it . and that system was as broken as it was ever gonna be .. i mean CCP has Bragged all these years about how eve is 1 server were thousands of people can Interact . but aparently if 100+ of them decide to shoot in the same system . everything falls apart ? Im just seriously wondering why are we seeing all this new content . when clearly the servers cant handle what we got already


It's one of those "Whoops, the horse has bolted, should we lock the door?" moments when Alliances and blues crept passed the 2500 man APEX force.

Just need to get 2500 bodies into a SYSTEM and that part of the sandbox is closed to everyone else.

You're clearly not drinking the cool-aid that pours from the tears of such entities that don't get any fights any more.

TiDi is NOT the problem.

You being in a 100+ man fight is actually, "THE" problem here.

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Victor Kordes
Doomheim
#18 - 2015-08-21 18:31:52 UTC
Tidi isnt really a thing anymore since phoebe and aegis Oops
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2015-08-21 19:10:40 UTC
The ghost titans happened a few years before TiDi was even thought up.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#20 - 2015-08-21 19:41:17 UTC
Nowadays it's all elite small gang and magiclaser interceptors so we don't have to suffer

Unless people protest in jita

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