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Why High Sec Gankers?

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Meloddy Sev
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#161 - 2015-08-27 02:30:00 UTC
Haven't got ganked since, and have been building better mining ships as well as battle ships.

Thanks for all the helpful tips everyone! Mining is no longer peaceful though...far from it...

Still think CODE is lame to attack n00bs who're trying to mine...
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#162 - 2015-08-27 03:53:50 UTC
Meloddy Sev wrote:

Still think CODE is lame to attack n00bs who're trying to mine...


More than half a dozen pages of this and you still haven't figured out that we don't care what you think?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#163 - 2015-08-27 04:04:31 UTC
Lame is an ableist term, please don't use it in such a derogatory fashion (to mean uncool) while in our high sec, which is now a safe space

Also, disrespect towards agents of the code is not permitted

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy
TenackAcki
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#164 - 2015-08-27 04:05:27 UTC
I have been playing this game on and off again for several years and have only lost one miner and this was in Low-Sec space. I have never experienced High-Sec Suicide bombing. I am not against PVP, as stated I need people to PVP in order to sell my products. I am against the attacks on individuals in 1.0 security space who are defenseless and trying to simply mine a few asteroids. I am also against individuals who camp out on one side of a jump gate and destroy any ship who jumps through.

I do find it interesting that I have been constantly talked down to just because I do not crave the bloodbath and slaughter that everyone else here wants. I do understand the concept of a sandbox game and the do whatever it is you want game style. This does not mean I have to sit there and go "Oh, boy I just lost my ship. I'm so happy for them, they did a good job and really got me." Loosing a ship in any fashion is not fun, I should know I have lost a few of them. 15 ships lost, 6 pods lost, 0 ships killed (yes, I am horrible at PVP). I did not become angry or cry, only a bit upset for the lose and knowing I would have to go back out and repurchase/rebuild/refit another ship. I do not expect the game to make any drastic changes for myself or for others. I did not come in here on any kind of crusade expecting change, I simply wanted to state my opinion on the matter.

In regards to Code I am against them mainly because of their pompous and self righteous attitude as well as trying to force their set of rules on people. Keyword there trying. I also do not like their glorifying of suicide bombers against helpless victims. Just as they are able to attempt to enforce these code I am able to deny it and resist it.

High-sec is not 100% safe, I know this. It is however safer than low-sec and null-sec. I will continue to operate in High-Sec space as it has so far proved the safest place for me.

Resist the Code!
Peace and Freedom in High-Sec!
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#165 - 2015-08-27 06:22:04 UTC
TenackAcki wrote:
I am against the attacks on individuals in 1.0 security space who are defenseless and trying to simply mine a few asteroids. I am also against individuals who camp out on one side of a jump gate and destroy any ship who jumps through.
Then EVE is not for you.

TenackAcki wrote:
High-sec is not 100% safe, I know this. It is however safer than low-sec and null-sec. I will continue to operate in High-Sec space as it has so far proved the safest place for me.
You say this based on your own experience. However, my experience is quite different, so whose experience do we go by when judging which space is the safest? Better question: why do we need to figure out which space is the safest? The nature of EVE grants us the assumption that the moment we undock, we are in danger. The degree of that danger is irrelevant, that the danger exists should be what determines the measures you take to mitigate the risk of undocking.

You say these things because you don't understand EVE. Doesn't matter how long you've been here, that's completely irrelevant. If a 70 year old man tells you the earth is flat and he knows because he's lived on it longer than you, would you believe him? No, of course you wouldn't, because the facts run contrary to his assertion. As they do here to your own assertions.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#166 - 2015-08-27 06:40:01 UTC
TenackAcki wrote:
I am against the attacks on individuals in 1.0 security space who are defenseless


Then people should choose to be not-defenceless.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
TenackAcki
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#167 - 2015-08-27 06:58:22 UTC
I did not state how long I been playing to put any weight behind me. I was only stating my opinion and my experience. Neither mine or yours hold any weight.

Yes, perhaps it is not. I did not join a came where I was forced to PVP, where I was forced to kill everyone I see. I wanted to join a came where I had options and choices and could forge a path through peace and industry. I wanted a game where I could form bonds with people and trust them. I see now this game is just slaughter fest simulator. As per EVE: If you choose not to PVP than you are nothing but a target. This game only wants killers, and let anarchy and death reign. Shame to any who wish for peace.


I would say it is hard to truly defend against an ambush.
Black Pedro
Mine.
#168 - 2015-08-27 08:18:59 UTC
TenackAcki wrote:
I did not state how long I been playing to put any weight behind me. I was only stating my opinion and my experience. Neither mine or yours hold any weight
No, but CCP's does. And they have repeatedly and consistently maintained that Eve is a PvP sandbox game set in dark, dystopian universe where you are never intended to feel safe.

If you have avoided most of the conflict in this game so far then good for you for being competent and skittish prey animal. But that does not mean Eve is not constructed from the ground up to facilitate player conflict. As you acknowledge, the PvP that is at the core of essentially all of the design of this game is what gives your industry value and why people give you ISK to do it.

TenackAcki wrote:
Yes, perhaps it is not. I did not join a came where I was forced to PVP, where I was forced to kill everyone I see. I wanted to join a came where I had options and choices and could forge a path through peace and industry. I wanted a game where I could form bonds with people and trust them. I see now this game is just slaughter fest simulator. As per EVE: If you choose not to PVP than you are nothing but a target. This game only wants killers, and let anarchy and death reign. Shame to any who wish for peace.
You are not forced to kill anyone. You can play this game as a gentle lamb helping the unfortunate, or a greedy business tycoon who pays other people to do the dirty work for you. But what you are not entitled to do is play this game immune from others who wish to explode your ship and take your stuff. Eve is based on conflict and you cannot benefit from this conflict by selling your industrial wares while also being isolated from these PvP struggles.

TenackAcki wrote:
I would say it is hard to truly defend against an ambush.
It is not hard - tedious perhaps - but it is trivial to protect yourself in this game where your assets are 100% safe in a station, you have the 100% reliable intel of local chat, and in highsec, an infallible police force that arrives in 10-20 seconds.

Still, you have to spend some effort to protect yourself from an ambush but this is, of course, intended.

The 8 Golden Rules of Eve

Why Do They Gank?
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#169 - 2015-08-27 12:06:49 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:


Also check your safety. If its set to green, you cannot be attacked in highsec.


8 pages nobody picked up on this?

Art of Explosions
Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
#170 - 2015-08-27 13:02:28 UTC
TenackAcki wrote:
Just as they are able to attempt to enforce these code I am able to deny it and resist it.

Resist the Code!
Peace and Freedom in High-Sec!


I see your rebellion didn't last long lol. I think 4 days is about the average before the typical rebel disappears into obscurity. Were you kicked from Nakota Shipyards because of threat of wardec for shiptosting?
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#171 - 2015-08-27 13:46:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Meloddy Sev wrote:
cheesy

Lexicon of a scrub tbh. I mean, you said you are hardcore gamer, you probably know that already, but still.

Meloddy Sev wrote:
Because high level elite players think this game should be played a certain way?

It's an open world, with many layers to it, with many ways to play. It's the reason I started playing.

Probably because they just play the game in a certain way, so why not?

Meloddy Sev wrote:
Pissing off new players who are trying to farm isk only discourages them. It discourages them from paying $15 a month.

Not directly related, but there are better ways to farm isk available to new players. For example, mining in null pays like 3+ times better, plus people who would attack you there can't approach you sporting the same CONCORD protection (alt scouts and the like included) you do, meaning they can be dealt with in much more straightforward way.

Currently null entities need to mine to support their defence indexes. Some of them prefer to burn their guys out by forcing them to do it, others just recruit people who are interested in null PvE.

Why don't you try to join such a group? It's better ISK/hour and arguably safer place to mine, looks like win/win to me. Making less in dangerous environment where noone can protect you even if they wanted to sounds eerily similar to "doing it wrong" to me tbh. No, not that subjective kind of "wrong" that makes little sense in sandbox, but objective inefficient kind of "wrong".

Besides, that opens up opportunities for you to get into something else in case you decide that your current activities isn't everything you want from this game.

Just a suggestion. People will do whatever they want for whatever reason. Just find the best way to do what you want regardless.

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Bellatrix Invicta
Doomheim
#172 - 2015-08-27 13:59:45 UTC
Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote:
TenackAcki wrote:
Just as they are able to attempt to enforce these code I am able to deny it and resist it.

Resist the Code!
Peace and Freedom in High-Sec!


I see your rebellion didn't last long lol. I think 4 days is about the average before the typical rebel disappears into obscurity. Were you kicked from Nakota Shipyards because of threat of wardec for shiptosting?


He started anonymous sperging all over minerbumping.com and I called him out on it. He probably got kicked.

If you think you've won, think again.

The CODE always wins.
TenackAcki
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#173 - 2015-08-27 19:50:31 UTC
Bellatrix Invicta wrote:
Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote:
TenackAcki wrote:
Just as they are able to attempt to enforce these code I am able to deny it and resist it.

Resist the Code!
Peace and Freedom in High-Sec!


I see your rebellion didn't last long lol. I think 4 days is about the average before the typical rebel disappears into obscurity. Were you kicked from Nakota Shipyards because of threat of wardec for shiptosting?


He started anonymous sperging all over minerbumping.com and I called him out on it. He probably got kicked.


Figure I'd just quote this post to answer both.

I am still here, still resisting. I left the corp because it was dying, had been for some months.

No, that was not me. I have glanced at the the blog to see what I am up against but I do not spam or partake in other such activates.
Bellatrix Invicta
Doomheim
#174 - 2015-08-27 20:07:48 UTC
Good thing you don't take part in those activates.

If you think you've won, think again.

The CODE always wins.
Yong Shin
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#175 - 2015-08-27 20:35:29 UTC
TenackAcki wrote:
Bellatrix Invicta wrote:
Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote:
TenackAcki wrote:
Just as they are able to attempt to enforce these code I am able to deny it and resist it.

Resist the Code!
Peace and Freedom in High-Sec!


I see your rebellion didn't last long lol. I think 4 days is about the average before the typical rebel disappears into obscurity. Were you kicked from Nakota Shipyards because of threat of wardec for shiptosting?


He started anonymous sperging all over minerbumping.com and I called him out on it. He probably got kicked.


Figure I'd just quote this post to answer both.

I am still here, still resisting. I left the corp because it was dying, had been for some months.

No, that was not me. I have glanced at the the blog to see what I am up against but I do not spam or partake in other such activates.


Ignore the trolls~ It's part of their RP. Keep up the good fight, and don't let these forums discourage you!
Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
#176 - 2015-08-27 21:26:47 UTC
TenackAcki wrote:
pompous and self righteous!


Say my name three times and I will appear!

Highsec is worth fighting for.

By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.  www.minerbumping.com
Meloddy Sev
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#177 - 2015-08-28 00:10:47 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Meloddy Sev wrote:

Still think CODE is lame to attack n00bs who're trying to mine...


More than half a dozen pages of this and you still haven't figured out that we don't care what you think?



Yes you do, you all totally care.

Tsukino Stareine wrote:
[quote=Leto Thule]

Also check your safety. If its set to green, you cannot be attacked in highsec.

8 pages nobody picked up on this?


I'm set to green. All the way down to 0.5 sec is still technically high sec right? Cause I never mine in 1.0 sec.


Am I the only one who gets a 'cult followers' vibe from these CODE people?

Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#178 - 2015-08-28 01:09:40 UTC
Cult is such a harsh word.

Please instead use 'enlightened followers of the one true saviour of high sec who have been baptised by CONCORD'

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy
TenackAcki
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#179 - 2015-08-28 01:31:57 UTC  |  Edited by: TenackAcki
Tisiphone Dira wrote:
Cult is such a harsh word.

Please instead use 'enlightened followers of the one true saviour of high sec who have been baptised by CONCORD'


Right, a cult.
Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
#180 - 2015-08-28 01:36:08 UTC
I saw TenackiAcki in AG channel today...he posted a couple Retriever kills to warn of ganks, and was promptly accused of being a CODE alt by at least one tinfoil in there. He's off to a promising start!