Crime & Punishment

Why are people playing in such a cheesy way? Attacking slow defenseless mining ships, then extorting the players for a marginal fee so it won't happen to them again? Why? Why has a virtual mafia taken over the game, "The New Order of Highsec". They aren't the only ones either.

Because high level elite players think this game should be played a certain way?

It's an open world, with many layers to it, with many ways to play. It's the reason I started playing.

Pissing off new players who are trying to farm isk only discourages them. It discourages them from paying $15 a month.

That only hurts the game, CCP loses money. If you like the game, don't troll people because you THINK the game should be played a certain way.

I lost 2 Retrievers in two days, would have lost more but I just stop mining when my assailant logs on. It's a real pain to be on edge when I'm mining trying to relax in real life, and I get trolled by some virtual gang who thinks their way of playing the game is the only way.

We're all grown ups, there's no need to be bullies.

But what do I know, I'm just a noob to this game...I'm also a hardcore PC gamer, and I have options where I can spend my money. I'd like to spend it on this game, but won't if I keep getting trolled. I'm one guy, one guy who's out spoken, and I promise my thoughts are shared by other players.

Come on...we get enough legit anti-CODE tears here without having to sock puppet more.

Because James 315 is the savior of Highsec and Eve Online is a sandbox MMO.

Welcome.



Sounds to me like you're learning; WL an enemy of sorts, adapting to your environment and surroundings with making necessary alterations to your strategy that best prolong your chance of survival.




I've never been a fan of players in any game saying, "if [insert selfish request here] doesn't happen then I'll leave!!" It's a sign that instead of figuring out how to play the game you would rather have the developers do it for you.

Adapt or die.

Have you explored the options available to defend yourself? I would expect any hardcore PC gamer to fully investigate all the avenues available to oneself before heading to a forum to complain. For instance when i started eve i spent days educating myself on how to fit ships and even more to understand why they are fit in such ways.

Mining is no different there is plenty of information out there to help you survive gank attempts.

It's like you can set your watch by these CODE alt posts.

No, her killboard checks out.

So OP, while there are several possible personal motivations as why Agent Zopiclone may be ganking you, the reasons why the New Order was founded are a matter of public record. The Father and Protector of Highsec, our Saviour James 315, has written them down in many of our sacred texts, primary of which is the Code itself. Perhaps next time you are mining, you can listen to the audio version of the Code. I recommend all miners do this so they can keep their hands on their keyboards, and eyes on their ships and local as is mandated by the Code as most recoil in horror over the slight drop in ISK/hour they would suffer when I tell them that they have to dock up even to read the Code. AFK mining is not allowed - full stop.

If that doesn't answer all your questions or if it piques your interest to learn more about what motivated James 315 to found the New Order, more of the Saviour's thoughts can be found in the various manifestos, blog and forum posts which are collected at the following URL: http://www.minerbumping.com/p/links.html

But in a nutshell: Eve is an open world, yes, but that also means other players get to play in New Eden as they like. Criminals are explicitly allowed in the game - ganking is not an exploit (or "cheese" in your words) but an intended game mechanic the developers expect you to deal with. The New Order is just providing the risk the developers intended for their to be in highsec when they envisioned the game.

No one is bullying you, they are just playing the game the way they want to. No one's trying to make you play a certain way, you are simply choosing to ignore the nature of EVE, and what the game is intended to be. Your solution to this problem is to learn from your losses. If people are quitting over this, then they were always going to quit anyway, because that's EVE.

On the other hand, your OP is, indeed, trying to tell people how they should play, and your attempts to 'other' those who blow up spaceships in a game about blowing up spaceships is a form of bullying itself, where you're trying to shame people out of blowing you up, instead of trying to blow them up as well. No one with a modicum of experience in EVE is going to fall for that, or feel any shame about exploding your virtual goods, so take a chill pill and HTFU.

Hardcore gamers don't cry like you're doing over PvP in a PvP MMO.

Hardcore gamers also know what Eve is, and what they're potentially exposing themselves to by subscribing.

GTFO "hardcore gamer"!

Simple solution is to relocate. CODE is not that big of an entity. There are ample places in hi sec they do not reach.

Alternatively, mining missions. They generate isk through I.p. rewards for mining mission junk. For the right corp it can pay well, plus you are not at an asteroid belt easily warped to. Generally, CODE would need a prober to reach you, which does not happen often.

Edited to add:
You have already posted though. Many will view this as a sign you are greifable. You may want to change occupations or lay low for a while as people are a pain.

It's a steep learning curve but the ball is in your court despite what the cry babies say. It's trivially easy to keep yourself safe in highsec with the right knowledge and effort.

There's a saying in highsec, "If there weren't any idiots there wouldn't be any ganks".