Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You do realize people, like Tappits, have been saying the same thing for months/years right? You need something to fight over rather than your name on a map because that's just superficial thing. Having resources in Null worth taking is what drove conflict and some sandbox related things like OTEC. As it stands there's little incentive to take systems from your neighbors or push your way into Null as the income levels are lower than other areas of the game.

You're better off doing WH gas harvesting in a C1 than taking a Null system in terms of ISK income.

...not so much...certainly not the CFC elected pets

True Story.
Faction warfare pays better than Sov and your AFK most of the time alone in a site...
Wormholes Significantly pay more then Null-Sec and you can just go on day trips in and out of em.
Incursions pay better than Null-sec and it is all PVE.
Depending on your luck.. Chasing Tags and BPC's in Low-sec can also be more lucrative than null-sec.

No reason to go to war and kick over a sandcastle when that Castle has nothing worth pillaging. As more and more new entities move out into Null-sec they will learn that the large isk faucets have been greatly reduced. Holding Sov to build and sell supers? For what reason do we have to buy them? Looking to hold Sov for .. well.. supers was really the reason to hold Sov. Moons are everywhere.

Null-sec is not stagnant because of a Big Blue Donut. Null-sec was not Stagnant because of Dominion and Structure Grinding. Null-sec became Stagnant when everything being Fought for was removed or greatly nerfed. Put in something worth breaking NIPS/NAPS for... watch how quick people start breaking them. Give alliance leaders reasons to risk assets for better rewards, and we will have fights all the time again, at least until the next OTEC or something is built.

Just like in real life.. Empires need a reason to invade another Empire. Resources are always a good motivator. Moons at one time were, but now moons for everyone \o/ Something new needs to be added to fight over. Hi-sec has Incursions, Faction warfare has the LP points, Soon we have Drifter content. Something needs to be added that will make a group want to pull its stakes and fly across the galaxy and open fire upon someone to stake claim. Currently this Everyone Vs Everyone game lacks any real Conflict Driver.

So they became CSM members without being voted in by large numbers of players who agree with their viewpoints?

Is that what you're trying to say?

And here we have an opinion of great sov holding CODE...
But knowing Kaarous, he's from people who likes to talk his butt, but not into thinking.
In case you missed it, I'm from a sov holding null alliance perfectly fine with fozziesov. Been trollceptored once, put some guards on, after trollceptors got rekt, they never came again.


CCP were doing a good job not listening to tear-filled tearswarm qqderation until that speedlimit came in.


So what happened to your "adapt or die" bravado? We adapted and doing fine. Gewns and UAxDEATH try being *snip* and fail pathetically. Working as intended.

Stay Civil ~ Buldath

It's really kind of disingenuous to claim some minor hiccups during a sov transfer is 'fail pathetically'. Where are all the timers in Deklein?

All told I just love how the people making the most noise about the new Sov system are the big power blocs. Of course they're the ones who are annoyed, because this system of mechanics gives The Little Guys power over them that they've never enjoyed. Sure, the overall chances that they (The Little Guys) will actually take and hold a meaningful amount of space from these blocs for any length of time is fairly low (though some outlying space will do doubt fall or become permanently contested), but that's not what this is about. It's about putting thorns in the side of the Big Guys, repeatedly. And judging by all the whines and tears, these new mechanics are doing that perfectly.

SOON



You know that chasing "nano junk" away is surprisingly easy when you actually live in the system?
Probably not. Must own that useless sov. Dominion thinking. Bound to qq.

you are making same mistake as a previous poster, confusing personal income with alliance income.

in order for alliances to fight for a resource it needs to be an alliance level income, not a personal income.

that's why alliances fight for moons, and used to fight for territories where they could put renters in.
now that all the major players have got enough renters, there is no economical drivers for them anymore.

i'm tired of people using "null is dead because there is no money in it".
if there was no money, all the big players you see on the map would've dropped their sov and moved to WH to harvest C1 gas like u suggest.

Dumbass, those rigs increase your ship's lock range. You'll need this to lock something orbiting at 4km/s at 250km with a T2 Entosis. Sic your drones onto them, job done. Now go back to playing wow, child-man.