Missions & Complexes

blitzing in mordus space in null: 150m/hour or more

high sec SoE: like maybe 80 if you're lucky

So on average for a single character in high sec level 4's, your looking between 50-80m/hour then I guess.

I wouldn't normally loot as it takes alot of time + I dont have an alt account :(

Thanks :)

The main thing im looking for is to be self-sustainable and not have to pay RL money for subscription so having a guide line on how missions stand helps :)

Incursions is something else that is also new to me but heard that they require alot of SP and a super bling ship so not something that is applicable for me for quite some time I imagine. :(

The main problem I have observed with Incursions and most of the player run Incursion channels/communities is that you have to wait upward of an hour and potentially several hours to join a fleet. Most of those communities also have extremely specific fitting and ship rules.

Can confirm you are looking at around 60-100mill/h blitzing LV4s depending on how well you blitz, what your skills regarding LP and isk payout and of course how often and what missions you skip. Sometimes you get lucky drops and some missions has a chance of dropping nice implants and those can boost your income a bit. You'll need a Macharial fitted with warp speed rigs btw (For the warp speed bonus) to blitz effectively.

Some do, some don't.

Warp To Me don't. There are usually a few maels, hyperions, rohks, etc. in fleet. The main requirement is to have WTM approved tank, everything else can be t1 and t2 mods.

Gonna have to go with Chainsaw on this one. You do need to note that if you plan on doing the burner missions (you don't have to), you will need few additional ships laying around to do them. Anomic Agents require T2 frigates and below, and each agent almost needs an entirely different ship fit. There is no all-in-one frigate for the anomic agents. All the Anomic Teams can be done using a Garmur kite setup. See this forum for more info on burners: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=369477&find=unread

I'm up to 140mill just blitzing lv4s with a closer to optimal setup than my initial post in this thread. Though there is some possibility of needing to do upkeep missions with regards to agent standings.

Doing missions is solo activity and therefore it has its pros and cons. Good thing is you can do them right when you log in and stop doing as soon as you want or need to stop. Bad thing it is repetitive and it gets very boring quite soon. I can't stand missioning for more than a couple hours.

And actually I stopped doing missions when I started running with incursion fleets. Well - I do epic arcs, or several missions just for the fun when there's no active incursion or some friend invites to do it together for fun, but that is rare.

Regarding waiting time for incursions... it might be true while you are new, but if you'll run incursions regularly and get familiar with other pilots, start taking some specific roles in the fleets, eventually you won't need to wait at all. I can get place in active fleet almost immediately as soon as I log on and get to incursion constellation. If there's no spot right away, I gather my own fleet. But all this comes with time and experience.

But the main reason why I prefer Incursions over missions in because I don't need to play solo in MMO game. I play it to be able to play with other players and missions are not the content for multiplayer. They can be done in group, but usually everyone solos them or uses alts to help themselves - grouping is not encouraged by the game design of the missions.

Regarding blinginess of the ships for Incursions... If you can run level 4 mission, you'll generally be able to start running Incursions. you'll need different fit and may need some skills you did not learn for missions, but that won't take years or months. Actually I calculated, that a fresh character can fit the starter incursion BS with necessary modules in ~ 30 days, so it's almost possible during trial. Regarding the fit itself, running incursions generates enough isks to fund ship fitting very fast. Offen new players earn money for pirate BS and faction/dedspace fit faster than they lean skills to pilot them.

One more thing which I don't like in mission running is that in order to get the isk you earn you need to sell LP and loot/salvage (if you gather them) as the bounties generate only small part of income. So you spend some time sorting stuff, hauling them and trading, which might take quite a long if you are not used to that or just don't like doing this like me. While Incursions give you pure cash ISK right away, plus a little bit of LP, which you can cash out when you need/want. I did not touch my LP for ages as I am content with pure ISK income. So I suspect that waiting for the spot in fleet even for a new player would take less time than sorting the mission LP and stuff over all.

But the best way is to try it yourself and see how you feel. People like different things and have different priorities. I often meet people who hate things that I like in the game and they are totally in love of things I hate :-)

May your adventures in EVE be fun FOR YOU.

To be clear:
Burner mission = no standing loss if you decline
Burner mission = standing gain like high LvL4 if you complete