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Oh the irony!

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#61 - 2015-08-16 09:07:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Daerrol wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Most alliances have limited patience with players that make mistakes,


If you are in a terrible alliance, I guess. Its EVE. Every single ship you have will eventually die in a fire. Punishing players for undocking is the worst possible thing you can do.


Preach.


CODE it seems, if that is directed at me I am the leader of my own small alliance and I don't care...

EDIT: What seems likely is that CODE were more interested in the way they are perceived from that loss and acted because of that, though of course thats just what one can see from the events following that loss

if you look in detail at why alliances and corps were worried about their killboards in the past you would understand that the game has changed a lot, before you had the view to try to become allies or pets, so if you had a poor killboard they would prefer to farm you rather than have you as allies. Another aspect is in terms of recruitment, people do not want to join alliances or corps that are losing a ton of ships, as they are quite rightly going to join something that is likely to be incompetent.

For my part I am not interested in being allies or pets of anyone based on those metrics, neither do I want to recruit anyone, but more importantly in terms of CODE I am not pushing an image of my alliance, so your little dig is way off target mate.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#62 - 2015-08-16 09:12:42 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Awww, you ruined it! I was waiting to see if he could post 10 times without anyone else replying. Now I'm going to have to elite peeveepee you. :P
Thunderdome

Do it.


You should also participate in the next round....
I'd feel like the goat that gets put in with the T-Rex in Jurrasic Park but I'm game for a giggle. Big smile

Looks like I may have to practice exploding hilariously, I know just the place to start.

Challenge accepted, it won't be the next round, it'll be the one following it; I have no intentions of being a lamb led to the slaughter and aim to offer at least a pretence of a fight.

Speechless

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#63 - 2015-08-16 09:47:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Awww, you ruined it! I was waiting to see if he could post 10 times without anyone else replying. Now I'm going to have to elite peeveepee you. :P
Thunderdome

Do it.


You should also participate in the next round....
I'd feel like the goat that gets put in with the T-Rex in Jurrasic Park but I'm game for a giggle. Big smile

Looks like I may have to practice exploding hilariously, I know just the place to start.

Challenge accepted, it won't be the next round, it'll be the one following it; I have no intentions of being a lamb led to the slaughter and aim to offer at least a pretence of a fight.

Speechless

It's time I tried something new, I tried to go in this direction a while back but RL got in the way. Expect to see my alt Quinn exploding in Aridia soon.

Jonah will be the sacrificial lamb entrant for the thunderdome.

Alt because there's no way in hell I'm giving up my corp name for somebody else to snag and she's far more focussed as to where the SP is.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#64 - 2015-08-16 10:20:37 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Awww, you ruined it! I was waiting to see if he could post 10 times without anyone else replying. Now I'm going to have to elite peeveepee you. :P
Thunderdome

Do it.


You should also participate in the next round....
I'd feel like the goat that gets put in with the T-Rex in Jurrasic Park but I'm game for a giggle. Big smile

Looks like I may have to practice exploding hilariously, I know just the place to start.

Challenge accepted, it won't be the next round, it'll be the one following it; I have no intentions of being a lamb led to the slaughter and aim to offer at least a pretence of a fight.


I'm honored. If you need some refresher fights, I'd be happy to accommodate you. Test server if you prefer. I have some low SP alts we could go over combat mechanics with.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#65 - 2015-08-16 10:23:03 UTC
Hate to break up the party, but don't you chaps have a Thunderdome thread to post this type of stuff in. Methink you are after a lock for off-topic posting, naughty naughty...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#66 - 2015-08-16 10:24:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Leto Thule wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Awww, you ruined it! I was waiting to see if he could post 10 times without anyone else replying. Now I'm going to have to elite peeveepee you. :P
Thunderdome

Do it.


You should also participate in the next round....
I'd feel like the goat that gets put in with the T-Rex in Jurrasic Park but I'm game for a giggle. Big smile

Looks like I may have to practice exploding hilariously, I know just the place to start.

Challenge accepted, it won't be the next round, it'll be the one following it; I have no intentions of being a lamb led to the slaughter and aim to offer at least a pretence of a fight.


I'm honored. If you need some refresher fights, I'd be happy to accommodate you. Test server if you prefer. I have some low SP alts we could go over combat mechanics with.
Au contraire, the honour is mine sir.

I'll be contacting you in the next couple of days to have a chat; I'm on forum time +1 but am often about until the not so early hours, does this pose any difficulties?

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Feyd's Survival Pack

Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#67 - 2015-08-16 10:25:07 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Daerrol wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Most alliances have limited patience with players that make mistakes,


If you are in a terrible alliance, I guess. Its EVE. Every single ship you have will eventually die in a fire. Punishing players for undocking is the worst possible thing you can do.


Preach.


CODE it seems, if that is directed at me I am the leader of my own small alliance and I don't care...

EDIT: What seems likely is that CODE were more interested in the way they are perceived from that loss and acted because of that, though of course thats just what one can see from the events following that loss

if you look in detail at why alliances and corps were worried about their killboards in the past you would understand that the game has changed a lot, before you had the view to try to become allies or pets, so if you had a poor killboard they would prefer to farm you rather than have you as allies. Another aspect is in terms of recruitment, people do not want to join alliances or corps that are losing a ton of ships, as they are quite rightly going to join something that is likely to be incompetent.

For my part I am not interested in being allies or pets of anyone based on those metrics, neither do I want to recruit anyone, but more importantly in terms of CODE I am not pushing an image of my alliance, so your little dig is way off target mate.


What?

Dude, who ARE you?

It's not a dig, nobody is talking about you, and nobody cares what you think about codedot. People do in fact join alliances that lose ships. It means they take risks and have fun. Not everyone cares about KB stats over all.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#68 - 2015-08-16 10:28:18 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Hate to break up the party, but don't you chaps have a Thunderdome thread to post this type of stuff in. Methink you are after a lock for off-topic posting, naughty naughty...
You make a good point, there was no intention on my part to derail the thread, I find the whole incident amusing.

@Leto, and any others that wish to have a giggle at just how badly I'm going to fail at this, I suggest that we move to the appropriate thread.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#69 - 2015-08-16 10:30:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Leto Thule wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Daerrol wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Most alliances have limited patience with players that make mistakes,


If you are in a terrible alliance, I guess. Its EVE. Every single ship you have will eventually die in a fire. Punishing players for undocking is the worst possible thing you can do.


Preach.


CODE it seems, if that is directed at me I am the leader of my own small alliance and I don't care...

EDIT: What seems likely is that CODE were more interested in the way they are perceived from that loss and acted because of that, though of course thats just what one can see from the events following that loss

if you look in detail at why alliances and corps were worried about their killboards in the past you would understand that the game has changed a lot, before you had the view to try to become allies or pets, so if you had a poor killboard they would prefer to farm you rather than have you as allies. Another aspect is in terms of recruitment, people do not want to join alliances or corps that are losing a ton of ships, as they are quite rightly going to join something that is likely to be incompetent.

For my part I am not interested in being allies or pets of anyone based on those metrics, neither do I want to recruit anyone, but more importantly in terms of CODE I am not pushing an image of my alliance, so your little dig is way off target mate.


What?

Dude, who ARE you?

It's not a dig, nobody is talking about you, and nobody cares what you think about codedot. People do in fact join alliances that lose ships. It means they take risks and have fun. Not everyone cares about KB stats over all.


I am the chap who you replied to basically in this thread and I may add in multiple other threads, so you obviously do care. Also you care enough to do off-topic posts on this thread. But if you don't want me to pick up on your little digs then don't reply to me, its hardly as if I am going to miss anything.

But CODE obviously care hence their action in terms of this corp / player which I find amusing...

PS Kaarous Aldurald I have your posts blocked, just so you know how little I value your stale views.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Mag's
Azn Empire
#70 - 2015-08-16 12:01:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Dracvlad wrote:
PS Kaarous Aldurald I have your posts blocked, just so you know how little I value your stale views.
If his views are of such little value, why block him and then inform everyone about it?

You like Kaarous Aldurald and his views, don't you Dracvlad?

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#71 - 2015-08-16 12:14:13 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:


I am the chap who you replied to basically in this thread and I may add in multiple other threads, so you obviously do care. Also you care enough to do off-topic posts on this thread. But if you don't want me to pick up on your little digs then don't reply to me, its hardly as if I am going to miss anything.

But CODE obviously care hence their action in terms of this corp / player which I find amusing...

PS Kaarous Aldurald I have your posts blocked, just so you know how little I value your stale views.


My reply to you didnt have anything to do with CODE. You said some stupid crap about how alliances have no tolerance for mistakes, which isnt true.

I am also, in no way, affiliated with CODE., however, I do enforce The Code on occasion while traipsing around highsec.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

admiral root
Red Galaxy
#72 - 2015-08-16 12:21:49 UTC
I think I've solved the mystery of Dinsdale's disappearance - Lucas is having to devote too much of his time spewing nonsense using his Dracvlad alt, as well as on his monkey *ahem* main.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#73 - 2015-08-16 12:22:08 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
PS Kaarous Aldurald I have your posts blocked, just so you know how little I value your stale views.
If his views are of such little value, why block him and then inform everyone about it?

You like Kaarous Aldurald and his views, don't you Dracvlad?


Because he is a tedious bore who derails threads with trolling that should be moderated but are not.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#74 - 2015-08-16 12:24:29 UTC
Revis Owen wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
PS Kaarous Aldurald I have your posts blocked, just so you know how little I value your stale views.


Dickless,

KA wasn't replying to you. You think too much of yourself. Your edit is genuinely hilarious.

:)


Yes he was dimwit, because he stuck that in after I said derailing the thread with the thunderdome stuff. At that point I decided to block him because it was just too evident. and added that as a PS. Another CODE dimwit.

So back to the matter in hand why was that CODE pilot kicked?

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

admiral root
Red Galaxy
#75 - 2015-08-16 12:25:19 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
PS Kaarous Aldurald I have your posts blocked, just so you know how little I value your stale views.
If his views are of such little value, why block him and then inform everyone about it?

You like Kaarous Aldurald and his views, don't you Dracvlad?


Because he is a tedious bore who derails threads with trolling that should be moderated but are not.


Dracvlad wrote:
Methink you are after a lock for off-topic posting, naughty naughty...


Hoisted on your own post-tard?

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#76 - 2015-08-16 12:25:20 UTC
admiral root wrote:
I think I've solved the mystery of Dinsdale's disappearance - Lucas is having to devote too much of his time spewing nonsense using his Dracvlad alt, as well as on his monkey *ahem* main.


I am not Lucas, nor Veers, nor Dinsdale, dream on. But please enlighten me why this pilot was kicked, would be interesting to know.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

admiral root
Red Galaxy
#77 - 2015-08-16 12:28:09 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
So back to the matter in hand why was that CODE pilot kicked?


You're not CODE., you're not New Order and you're not even a New Order shareholder. Under what circumstances do you consider it to be any of your business. If I started demanding answers when your corp / alliance kicked someone, just what information would you consider it my business to have?

Also, asked and answerd if you'd had the netiquette to read before posting (yes, I know, manners are so 1950s).

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#78 - 2015-08-16 12:38:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
admiral root wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
So back to the matter in hand why was that CODE pilot kicked?


You're not CODE., you're not New Order and you're not even a New Order shareholder. Under what circumstances do you consider it to be any of your business. If I started demanding answers when your corp / alliance kicked someone, just what information would you consider it my business to have?

Also, asked and answerd if you'd had the netiquette to read before posting (yes, I know, manners are so 1950s).


Because its a game, its drama in the game and everyone likes drama, because it is also an alliance that tells everyone that they do not mind losses, suddenly appearing to mind a loss.

CODE have insisted that they are the legal guardians of hisec, that they have the right to police hisec, in doing so they have a duty of care to explain to the people when an event directly contradicts one of your alliances much stated attitudes. So I take it from that reply that you guys really do not have the right to even police yourselves?

Do you also not understand what a PS means, wow so lame...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#79 - 2015-08-16 12:41:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Leto Thule wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:


I am the chap who you replied to basically in this thread and I may add in multiple other threads, so you obviously do care. Also you care enough to do off-topic posts on this thread. But if you don't want me to pick up on your little digs then don't reply to me, its hardly as if I am going to miss anything.

But CODE obviously care hence their action in terms of this corp / player which I find amusing...

PS Kaarous Aldurald I have your posts blocked, just so you know how little I value your stale views.


My reply to you didnt have anything to do with CODE. You said some stupid crap about how alliances have no tolerance for mistakes, which isnt true.

I am also, in no way, affiliated with CODE., however, I do enforce The Code on occasion while traipsing around highsec.


So you are saying that my statement that some alliances do not have tolerence for mistakes, ok Hurley and his Titan destroyed by your own alliance and Brave Newbies, result Hurley leaving PL and PK selling that toon. That was a very solid example, so over to you!

And do you understand the word SOME?

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

admiral root
Red Galaxy
#80 - 2015-08-16 12:45:49 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
CODE have insisted that they are the legal guardians of hisec, that they have the right to police hisec, in doing so they have a duty of care to explain to the people when an event directly contradicts one of your alliances much stated attitudes. So I take it from that reply that you guys really do not have the right to even police yourselves?


We're not your local police force, vaguely answerable to the people technically, on paper, sort of. We are the eyes, ears and blasters of the Saviour of highsec and we are answerable only to Him. Anyone who'd read sufficiently to have a vague understanding of what we're about would know that, so either you're too lazy to learn about something before commenting, or you're willfully trolling (which would be ironic considering you've supposedly blocked Kaarous for the same reason).

I note that you completely skipped over the part where I stated that, despite it being no-one's business, we have in fact answered the question in this very thread.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff