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SAFIZON: ALERT

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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#21 - 2015-08-17 20:01:27 UTC
That's some epic derailment there folks, from Drifters attacking Safizon to the nature of W-space. And do I see that beloved conspiracy place 'Earth' being thrown in? Darn. What's next? Terrans coming to get us?

On a more serious note, it might be best to take the discussion to a separate thread. Note, Arek'Jaalan is doing their best, in cooperation with capsuleer scientists & explorers to find out more about the deeper layers of wormhole systems & what they hold. especially the ones recently uncovered that hold those Drifter structures...
It could be good to co-ordinate your actions with the Arek'Jaalan science community.

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Arrendis
TK Corp
#22 - 2015-08-17 20:07:57 UTC
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
Terrans coming to get us?


Maybe they're already among us...
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2015-08-17 20:09:25 UTC
The derailment was unintentional, I am sorry. Years of exploration and operating as a lone ship gives a person far too much time to think. I was giving a very wide focus as to the Why part of the attack. There is concern of further attacks but we really neex to know why. What is in and around there that we can quantify? Why would drifter be interested? Are there other systems that need to be on guard?

If it is some other tech, are other empires at risk? I mean for all we know it truly could be a feint. I cannot think what anybody has worth such a feint. Also since has been quiet since initial attack leans away from this as well.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.

Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2015-08-17 20:47:15 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
Where do we start on the hunt for facts? We need theories. Theories in science are called hypothesis. Theory in politics is supposition. First is who are drifters? They are some quazi alternate dimension or different time human like we see in holoreels or more probable, a different location. Different location and humans is three viable alternatives when considering the wormhole systems are not a part of any known jumpgate route.

1. They are a separate branch of development isolated from us cause of the dark ages.

2. Another colonization separate from new eden

3. Earth



4. With the possible exception of the Rogue Drones they are the closest thing to an alien intelligence we've discovered so far.

That they are significantly more advanced than us and probably the Jove should be a major cause for alarm for us on a species level.

Sansha have just been aping an advanced civilization using some hobbled together Sleper tech and look how many tens of millions they've killed or captured over the last five years.

So no, I don't see this discussion as being too divergent. We have a serious threat to the entirety of the New Eden cluster. And we're making the same stumbling mistakes we did five years ago with Sansha.

If we follow the same path, we can expect to lose billions of people and see an irrevocable change to our civilization. The attacks on Safizon are a shot across the bow. In the grand scope of things, they are the small rocks being tossed into our pond that will ripple far beyond their point of entry.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#25 - 2015-08-17 21:19:52 UTC
There are three potential focuses for the Vigilant Tyrannos in Safizon.

1) The Amarr Navy headquarters. With the apparent ability to disregard borders at will, the Drifters may simply be attacking the highest-value fixed asset they're aware of. This might be used as a focal point to draw out and deplete the Throne Worlds fleet, as to this point the Drifters appear to not be directly attacking the military station in the system. I would be very curious as to how depleted the Throne Worlds fleet is after multiple pitched battles in Safizon, but of course assume that this information is confidential.

2) The TES Auctoritas. As a flagship and a purportedly advanced piece of technology, this may also be an interest to the Drifters. At the same time, the ship was relocated to Ebidan before the latest attack for flight trials.

3) Something, if anything, that was recovered by the TES Righteous Cross during its shakedown cruise in the EVE constellation could be of interest to the Drifters. This is clearly the most speculative.

Given that the Vigilant Tyrannos began patrolling the Empire's space aggressively after the distribution of Entosis Link technology by Carthum, a technology which uses Jove mind-machine interface equipment, engaged pilots with a fitted Entosis Link, and aggressively engage any pilot in the area of a Jove Observatory, I suspect that what can most effectively hold the Drifters' attention is Jove technology. This makes me want to favor option three, but it's also the one with the least directly-supporting evidence.

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Arrendis
TK Corp
#26 - 2015-08-17 22:06:50 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
There are three potential focuses for the Vigilant Tyrannos in Safizon.


The communications logs intercepted from the SoCT entosis scan of the Empress's Avatar were also sent to Safizon.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#27 - 2015-08-17 22:31:26 UTC
Hm! Point. I'd forgotten that one. And it does predate the first Vigilant Tyrannos raid on Safizon. Interesting. Admittedly, I'm not sure I give much credence the conspiracies warrant.

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