EVE General Discussion

They would get to see explosions in space.

They were probably afk anyway

Actually, no. What I meant by "not as good at Eve" is exactly what I said.

People who, for whatever reason, aren't as good at playing Eve as other people. All jokes aside, the Concord mechanic is reasonable enough to protect the "not good" portion of the Eve playerbase from the MLGpro style types.

So by that logic - the thousands who have let nul toons unsub, did it because they were having too much fun?
Tell me, if living in, defending and or taking sov kept you busy and was engaging content - Would you have time to log in an alt and go ganking?
I personally know a few nulsec players who have alts in ganking corps, they do it - because nul is boring 99.99% of the time. Not because "they would be in highsec regardless" - These guys (and at least 2 RL girls) live in nul and gank (play) in empire some of the time.
(Do you really think people give you "all" their API keys when they apply to corp, having toons in different groups is, I find, a good way to find something to do)
Do you know the name of the character I have in Test? Do you know the name of my character in Marmite?

Unless you enjoy spending 90% of your time chasing un-catchable ceptors or trying to convince 19 others undocking to kill the 5 guys camping the undock (instead of complaining about being camped in) would be good. Your options in nul are fairly limited.

But of course you do have the 40 man Rupture fleet that runs away from a fleet its own size because they are only there to engage small gangs of miners and solo pilots.. Or the 2 Legions with a Sabre who really want content and are there to pvp (they said so in local), as long as it only comes to them 1 ship at a time. (No amount of taunting in local from 2 prots and a flycatcher could get them to engage.)


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Freya Sertan - Where did you get "trying to get rid of highsec ganking"?
Spending time in nul on my main but logging in highsec ganking alt for fun - Sort of says a lot, does it not?
NB; might be best not to respond with a comment that backs up what i said if your trying to disagree with me.


Ishtars online is all but gone (thank Bob)
But was replaced with
Ceptors online (curse Fozzie)

Actually more people do pve in highsec, we just kill more things because you can do it almost entirely afk in super-tanked Ishtars.

Not sure why people claim this. It does terrible in any capacity as a training ground beyond learning the basic mechanics of flying a ship and using mods. Those aspects aren't unique to highsec and beyond that it doesn't offer any preparation. It does offer different effective rules of engagement which benefit the new and old alike.

It doesn't accomplish this well if at all. Highsec tactics for gank avoidance tend to revolve around simply not being the most attractive or soft target, not being in the hotzone in a ship larger than a BS and/or not taking the flashy bait.

On the other hand, viewing highsec through the lens of a training space we can see it's failure in that those same tactics lack meaning in any other area of space. A gank in low or null won't be deterred by another 10k or 20k EHP. Highsec doesn't mirror the realities of neuts in local being threats in other areas of space. Bait tactics go out of the window completely for those not looking for prey. You just get directly aggressed.

It's quite easy to see how highsec lessons don't progress you like a training area would/should. Rather, the specific lessons you learn are often uniquely applicable to highsec alone.

I didn't say more people PVE in null... I said per capita you guys out there by and far take the cake. You kill 22% less NPCs than highsec players while having 1/6th the numbers of players.

Which means roughly you carebear 3x more per player than High sec.

Oh and by the way. Since Fozzie sov your PVP numbers have fallen off the map. You are now killing far less than High Sec while carebear activity is equal. Whatever that means in terms of your agenda I don't know.

There is no one left to challenge us, so people are just making money in preparation for the next sov change in 5 or 6 years. Maybe by then a new threat will have emerged.

We don't really have an agenda anymore.

Also by region northern nullsec regions kill more rats than any other region.

We should have some kind of Middle Sec.

as well as 0.5 systems should be more interactive but removed from the major trading routes.