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Current state of drone ships for low and mid level PvE?

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Vendraen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-08-06 17:47:21 UTC
I'm not finding any recent topics discussing drone ships. So to me that means either nothing's changed or no one gives a ****. ;) I like drones, so I was thinking to kind of "specialize" there. I do PvE only for now, and I don't have a lot of SP. See http://eveboard.com/pilot/Vendraen ...

Are there any good options for Cruiser-size drone ships for PvE right now? Any links/etc for good fits?
Pax Deltari
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-08-06 18:33:17 UTC
Gila, Ishtar, VNI. Gila Gila Gila

Sorry man Not 100% sure what you're asking. Just for a cruiser PvE ship right? Gila Gila Gila.

Did I mention the Gila?

Just actually looked at your EvE board and I see that your drone skills suck and you need to work on those if you want to fly a drone ship. Also unfortunately you'd want to go specialize in Amarr or Gallente ships (Gallente is the right answer here) if you wanted to fly Drone hulls effectively. Let me know what you'd like help with and I'll advise you ship wise.
Vendraen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-08-06 22:11:13 UTC
Pax Deltari wrote:
Just actually looked at your EvE board and I see that your drone skills suck and you need to work on those if you want to fly a drone ship.


That's easily fixed.

Thanks for the advice. So you're saying the Gila might be ok? :D

Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#4 - 2015-08-06 22:36:09 UTC
Did someone say Gila? Lol

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Roseline Penshar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-08-06 23:56:23 UTC
just use ishtar with navy heavy, it can hit frigate size too
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#6 - 2015-08-06 23:59:56 UTC
The Gila is freakin amazing and has a fairly low skill overhead to get into.
It is more than okay.
It is awesome.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Ahed Sten
#7 - 2015-08-07 02:24:47 UTC
Since he mentioned "low level" pvp somewhere along the line, and since the Gila isn't exactly "low level," I'll quickly mention that the Tristan is a great little kiting drone ship, in the ballpark of about 6 mil if flown with T2 mods. That's my vote for the frig lineup.

For Cruisers, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Gila.
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#8 - 2015-08-07 02:45:32 UTC
I suggest the Moa's pirate brother. What's it called? The Rattlesnake's kid? The Worm's daddy?

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I invented Tiericide

Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#9 - 2015-08-07 02:58:05 UTC
OP if you defined what your interpretation of low level missions are we could be more helpful.

Staying away from anything that resembles a T2 ship since I have no idea of your ISK stash until ewee get to the higher levels.

For level 1 and 2 missions the Tristan and Algos are both excellent choices. The Federation Navy Comet is more dependent on it's guns than the others but it is still a reasonable ship for drones pilots to fly.

For level 2's the Algos works well as does the Vexor.

For level 3's the Myrmidon is an excellent choice for drones pilots on a budget.
The Ishtar and Gila are both excellent ships that can be used in level 3 missions if you have the skills and the ISK for them.

With level 4's the Gila works but is considered by some to be less than optimal for a number of reasons. Like those who champion the GIla as a level 4 ship most of the reasons stated will be largely personal opinions and preferences.
The Ishtar is better at level 4's in my mind than the Gila simply because of it's larger drones bay and bonuses that affect all drones not just the mediums.
Dominix and Rattlesnake are both excellent drones ships for a level 4 pilot. The Domi would be a better low cost option but in the end I think the Rattle is the better mission ship overall.
Ortilus Orsides
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-08-07 03:40:14 UTC
Val'Dore wrote:
I suggest the Moa's pirate brother. What's it called? The Rattlesnake's kid? The Worm's Big Brother?



Fix that for you
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#11 - 2015-08-07 10:24:51 UTC
Fine... Algos and Dragoon work fine for low end stuff, as do the Arbitrator and the Vexor.
Myrm or Prophecy for mid range stuff.
Gila, because... Gila.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Vendraen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-08-07 11:04:55 UTC
Looks like Vexor and then Myrmidon are going to be good for me.

Time to start training Gallente stuff. :D
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#13 - 2015-08-07 12:40:27 UTC
Vendraen wrote:
Looks like Vexor and then Myrmidon are going to be good for me.

Time to start training Gallente stuff. :D


What the hell? He must be immune.








Take him out back and shoot him.

Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.

I invented Tiericide

Vendraen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-08-07 12:46:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Vendraen
O_o

Going to be a damn,damn long time before I can afford a Gila.

My mentioning of "low and mid level PvE" should clue you in that a quarter of a billion ISK (just for the hull!) might be a little out of my price range. :D
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#15 - 2015-08-07 12:54:42 UTC
Well fine then, check out the Worm.

Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.

I invented Tiericide

Vendraen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2015-08-07 13:03:36 UTC
Val'Dore wrote:
Well fine then, check out the Worm.


You really do like the pirate ships eh? Arrrr?

Worm's about 80,000,000. Want to give me an interest free loan? :D

Then again, she's only got 10mb/s bandwidth. How is that better than Algos, with 35mb/s?

Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-08-07 13:30:33 UTC
Vendraen wrote:
Val'Dore wrote:
Well fine then, check out the Worm.


You really do like the pirate ships eh? Arrrr?

Worm's about 80,000,000. Want to give me an interest free loan? :D

Then again, she's only got 10mb/s bandwidth. How is that better than Algos, with 35mb/s?



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Ahed Sten
#18 - 2015-08-07 13:36:52 UTC
Oh. I didn't see where you mentioned PVE. Disregard my statement about the Tristan, then.

Stick with the Algos for Level 1's, Vexor for Level 2's, Some decent BC drone boat for Level 3's...Maybe the Myrm...then hop into the Domi when you're ready for Level 4's. It's a reliable drone progression that won't break the bank.
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#19 - 2015-08-07 13:40:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Do Little
The Gurista Pirate ships (Worm, Gila, Rattlesnake) align well with the skills you have trained thus far and there is no question that anyone flying one of these will tell you the state of drone ships is awesome!

There is also no question that they are expensive and not "affordable to lose" for a newer player. You also need fairly good fitting skills - especially if you intend to use T2 launchers.

Another ship you may want to consider since it has a decent drone capability and uses your missile and shield skills is the Minmatar Bellicose.

Another option is the Gnosis - at 60 million it is a bit more expensive that normal T1 battlecruisers but it leverages all your existing skills and is bonused for drones. Gnosis will easily handle level 3 missions.

Edit: The Gurista ships have a huge role bonus for drones - For the Worm, each drone is equivalent to 3 normal drones.
Vendraen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2015-08-07 14:24:39 UTC
Do Little wrote:
Another ship you may want to consider since it has a decent drone capability and uses your missile and shield skills is the Minmatar Bellicose.


Oooo, that one does look damn nice on paper and she's not real expensive either.

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Edit: The Gurista ships have a huge role bonus for drones - For the Worm, each drone is equivalent to 3 normal drones.


I know. But the cost differential between the pirate ships and ships with larger drone bays is huge - I don't think it works out in a purely monetary tradeoff. You can just use MOAR DRONES on a cheaper ship. There's no benefit in being able to use a smaller number of drones, is there?
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